Unfortunately it's like 500 billion for search and 50 billion for
youtube and 5 billion for android... Still billions are great numbers
but you have to consider that Google spends money like it's rain...
On 08/12/2016 12:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
Didn't the previous email say there were only 3 money makers?
Android, search engine, and Youtube?
$555 billion isn't bad for three money makers. LOL
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/10/investing/google-alphabet-all-time-high/
"Shares of Google parent company Alphabet (GOOGL, Tech30) hit an
all-time high Tuesday of more than $813 a share. The company is now
worth $555 billion."
"The company is still growing at a rate that would make most companies
envious. Analysts are forecasting that profits will increase more than
15% this year and that sales will be up 20%.
That's truly remarkable when you consider just how colossal Google is.
Sales are expected to top $88.5 billion this year and exceed $100
billion in 2017."
So, that may take awhile there Robert.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
> Sorry to sound like not a google fanboy but it's a typical phd
company..
> They look at the paper pile before the experience pile... & yes
they will
> eventually go down because of it...
>
> On 08/11/2016 03:24 PM, Brian Webster wrote:
>>
>> Having been directly involved in the Google Fiber projects, I
can tell you
>> there are a number of factors that caused them to take pause on the
>> deployments. One was the almost obstructionist attitude of pole
owners (read
>> competitors to their broadband deployment). This forced a lot
more of the
>> project deigns to underground deployment. In cities like San
Jose and San
>> Francisco, there were a lot of requirements that cost more money
than Google
>> budgeted for. In some respects Google kind of had the idea that
cities would
>> remove obstacles like that to get them in their city. With so
much existing
>> broadband already in place, this is certainly not the case. I
think Google
>> thought all cities were going to have the attitude like they had
with the
>> first cities who applied for Google to come to their cities
(Like Kansas
>> City did).
>>
>> Google was also of the impression that they could design and
permit their
>> networks and then cherry pick neighborhoods to deploy based on
pre-sign ups
>> (in Google terms - fiberhoods). This creates a huge logistic
problem in
>> planning construction especially with underground deployment.
This also
>> drove up costs.
>>
>> Google is still investigating the wireless options. What you
will see from
>> them should be a hybrid network system. They will buy up dark fiber,
>> capacity on lit fiber, conduit space and whole fiber systems
where they can.
>> They may use microwave to cross connect systems or bridge high
construction
>> cost areas such as railroad crossings. They are looking at
wireless to
>> basically go more from the curb to the customer, especially in
MDU cases.
>> Existing competition and/or existing contracts within an MDU
makes it risky
>> to do a wired play if they cannot assure themselves of a huge
take rate
>> within the MDU. I see their wireless play as more of a high
capacity short
>> hop last mile, but even then they will have challenges with
spectrum,
>> interference and capacity.
>>
>> While we all would think Google is a great company with
resources to do
>> whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot
from the
>> inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty somethings
with ADD and
>> too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older
folks are too
>> far behind the times to possibly know what they are talking
about. Google is
>> certainly not a utility infrastructure company and lack the
people, tools
>> and skill sets to be one. They are their own best cheerleaders
and they have
>> a dangerous habit of believing their own hype internally and are
not real
>> good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input.
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>
>> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a
camel through
>> the eye of a needle.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>
>> So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with
your WISP.
>>
>> We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful
companies in the
>> world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the
best RF
>> engineering talent in the world on their payroll?
>>
>> They're not doing anything different than many of us have done,
which is
>> evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most
appropriate
>> one for the application. If it was going to cost you a couple
hundred
>> thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing the same
thing too.
>> It's the smart play.
>>
>> At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean
"saying
>> they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies".
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Wait until they experience ducting ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Bill Prince
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>>
>>> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At
least in
>>> San Jose.
>>>
>>> Anyone know anything about Webpass?
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>
>>> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as
alternative to
>>> fiber.
>>> Interesting times!
>>>
>>>
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/google-fiber-del
>>> ays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
