Something is worth whatever someone will pay for it.

Eight years ago, contractors were building nice homes in a nice new area, next to a golf course. They would build it for $600k (total cost for everything) and then turn around and sell them for $1.2 - $1.4 million. Were people getting screwed? I think so. Did they still buy them? Yes.

Travis


On 8/22/2016 8:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...

It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill looks like:

NRC
$several hundred dollars - CPE radio
$165 - new customer one time installation fee
$80 router purchase

MRC
$85 monthly for a reasonably high quota service

I think that the price disparity between the actual market value of the router ($11 to $15 on ebay with free shipping included in the price) and what they sold it for is so wide that it's just /wrong/.

I can see buying a $75 basic 802.11ac router and selling it for $100, or even $110... But not this.


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Trey Scarborough <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it
    for $80 and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see
    the problem. Its a $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to
    install it. If that was geek squad the bill would probably come
    out to $300...

    I agree if this is a competitor just sell a better faster router
    for less with install.

    On 8/22/2016 8:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

        If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about
        it. Nothing
        productive will come of it.


        On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            That doesn't really answer the questions though. Sounds
        like the
            second one kinda...

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373


            On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector
        put in
                place, and the router connected to the LAN side of the
        PoE...

                The CPE radio installation was its own installation
        service
                charge and equipment fee separate from the $80 line
        item for the
                router.



                On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman
                <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
                <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                    If it's sold as new?  That's wrong.

                    If it's sold as a service (go to house, install
        router,
                    leave)?  That's fine.

                    If it's sold as a used product?  That's fine.


                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
                    <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                        Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi
        routers to
                        their customers.

                        Some routers are used pulls from other
        customers, get
                        factory defaulted and configured for new
        customers.

                        Nothing wrong with this.

                        If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers
        from
                        customer pulls and re-selling them to another
        customer
                        at $80/piece, and that router was this exact
        model:

        
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEAR-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT-SWITCH-/171392676852?hash=item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY
        
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEAR-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT-SWITCH-/171392676852?hash=item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY>

                        Would you consider it to be ethically
        questionable? I
                        could not in good conscience sell such a feeble,
                        obsolete $10 router for $80.


                        This is not a 'rented' router, this was an actual
                        purchase line item on a customer invoice.









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