Router Installation and setup from Best Buy is $149, not including the cost
of the router.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This seems reasonable to me.  We sell refurbished (read: used) N300
> routers from EBay for $69.95 and new AC750s for $99.95.  This price
> includes the service call (if applicable) and the installation and setup.
> The N300s are roughly the same markup as you mentioned here.  We warranty
> them for 90 days.
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we need more of that in the US
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Brian McCoy <bri...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I just read the wiki on the Shawinigan handshake, and I must say, very,
>>> very entertaining. I still have a solid belly chuckle going right now.
>>> Thank you good sir for the laugh this Tuesday morning.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian McCoy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 10:16 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the land of moose, maple syrup and prime ministers who aren't afraid
>>> to choke out a protestor [1], my wife and I pay $130 CAD together monthly
>>> for health insurance...  Which covers pretty much everything.
>>>
>>> [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawinigan_Handshake
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You better stay away from the medical industry.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2016 10:01 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
>>>
>>> It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill
>>> looks like:
>>>
>>> NRC
>>>
>>> $several hundred dollars - CPE radio
>>>
>>> $165 - new customer one time installation fee
>>>
>>> $80 router purchase
>>>
>>> MRC
>>>
>>> $85 monthly for a reasonably high quota service
>>>
>>> I think that the price disparity between the actual market value of the
>>> router ($11 to $15 on ebay with free shipping included in the price) and
>>> what they sold it for is so wide that it's just *wrong*.
>>>
>>> I can see buying a $75 basic 802.11ac router and selling it for $100, or
>>> even $110...  But not this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Trey Scarborough <t...@3dsc.co> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it for $80
>>> and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see the problem. Its a
>>> $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to install it. If that was geek squad
>>> the bill would probably come out to $300...
>>>
>>> I agree if this is a competitor just sell a better faster router for
>>> less with install.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2016 8:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about it. Nothing
>>> productive will come of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     That doesn't really answer the questions though.  Sounds like the
>>>     second one kinda...
>>>
>>>     Josh Luthman
>>>     Office: 937-552-2340
>>>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>     1100 Wayne St
>>>     Suite 1337
>>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in
>>>         place, and the router connected to the LAN side of the PoE...
>>>
>>>         The CPE radio installation was its own installation service
>>>         charge and equipment fee separate from the $80 line item for the
>>>         router.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>         <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>         <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             If it's sold as new?  That's wrong.
>>>
>>>             If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router,
>>>             leave)?  That's fine.
>>>
>>>             If it's sold as a used product?  That's fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>             Josh Luthman
>>>             Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>             Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>             1100 Wayne St
>>>             Suite 1337
>>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>             On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>>>             <eric.kuh...@gmail.com <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi routers to
>>>                 their customers.
>>>
>>>                 Some routers are used pulls from other customers, get
>>>                 factory defaulted and configured for new customers.
>>>
>>>                 Nothing wrong with this.
>>>
>>>                 If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers from
>>>                 customer pulls and re-selling them to another customer
>>>                 at $80/piece, and that router was this exact model:
>>>
>>>                 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEA
>>> R-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT-
>>> SWITCH-/171392676852?hash=item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY
>>>
>>>                 Would you consider it to be ethically questionable? I
>>>                 could not in good conscience sell such a feeble,
>>>                 obsolete $10 router for $80.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 This is not a 'rented' router, this was an actual
>>>                 purchase line item on a customer invoice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
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