Have you seen the battery backup requirements for VoIP lately? On Aug 27, 2016 6:39 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can do brownfield for $3500 or less. $2500 if not expensive battery > backed GPON. > > -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Google Fiber information > > I'm with Ken on this. $50/sub does not seem possible. That doesn't even > cover the ONT. I might believe $500/sub, but that might be a stretch > depending on the neighborhood. > > Wasn't the $250 million a quarterly number though? > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 8/27/2016 8:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Your numbers are confusing me, $250M for 5M subs would be $50 per sub. >> And supposedly Google spent $1 billion on Kansas City alone and the number >> of $1000 per sub is thrown around for urban FTTH. >> >> It also seems Rory is including the cost not just to build out FTTH, but >> to do it on an accelerated schedule and to do the marketing and promotions >> to get to 85% take rate. >> >> Another takeaway I haven't heard much discussion about is that reportedly >> Google TV has been a dismal failure. I'm not sure what their subscribers >> are using for their TV, probably OTT services? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Chuck McCown >> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:23 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: Google Fiber information >> >> I don't know why you would think it takes $250M to do 5M subs. I do >> construction in high density residential all day long at 5-10% of that >> cost. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Chuck McCown >> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:00 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information >> >> I am talking about Eagle Mountain Utah. Lots of starter homes and super >> stingy young Mormon families. 85% happens. It truly does. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Rory Conaway >> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:57 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information >> >> I understand that there are areas where you might have an 85% but that was >> before the days of half of all households have someone on public >> assistance. >> And if you notice, Google only cherry picked high income areas. If I >> targeted only Scottsdale with houses that average $1M and up and my >> competitor was crap, I'd get a high uptake also. Most of our areas are >> middle class, lower-middle class, and even below that. Budget matters, >> people are skeptical, and the effort needed to convert them is much >> higher. >> >> As for the 5M number being realistic, depends on the investment and the >> market. If you are just targeting residential internet, it's going to be >> very, very expensive, like north of $250M to get there within 5 years >> unless >> you just buy everyone up. But there are a lot of people in this country >> and >> with average incomes at $30K, a lot of opportunity. I also believe it's >> possible to go much higher than that. DSL is collapsing and the cable >> companies are following the same stale path they always do without any >> real >> innovations. >> >> Rory >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information >> >> On 8/26/16 6:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >> >>> >>> i thought it was a rooter? >>> >> >> >> Only in Canada. >> >> >> >
