Play on words?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig why? On 9/26/2016 8:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Everyone's against policing these days. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Reynolds" <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 6:55:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig Depends on if he wants to police or shape. To police you don't need much of a buffer, and it's a very hard cutoff. To shape (much better user experience), he'll need something like RED, WRED, codel/fq_codel and deeper buffers. On Sep 26, 2016 6:19 PM, "Keefe John" <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> > wrote: wouldn't you want zero queue buffers for true rate limiting? Buffers infer traffic shaping. On 9/26/2016 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I wouldn't say most, but many do. Normally switches don't have the proper buffer depth for that kind of thing at scale, unless using those super high throughput, very large buffer data center oriented ASIC designs. On Sep 26, 2016 3:27 PM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: Do most managed switches like the netonix offer a rate limiting/queue/bandwidth limit? On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net <mailto:ch...@velociter.net> > wrote: They’re terribly inefficient, for one. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:31 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig What is wrong with a simple queue? On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Carlos Alcantar <car...@race.com <mailto:car...@race.com> > wrote: we do it with ciena/cyan equipment as well. Your going to be looking at more of a MEF type of switch that can handle this of feature. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%2B1%20415%20376%203314> / car...@race.com <mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com ________________________________________ From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Jon Auer <j...@tapodi.net <mailto:j...@tapodi.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:29:25 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig I'm using Ciena 3930s as CPE for our customers with 10G ports and, for those that have subrate services, using them for shaping/policing. It's a switch targetted at carrier ethernet demarc so it has many useful QoS and OAM options. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> <mailto:t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> >> wrote: What is the best way to throttle a customer to a specific bandwidth threshold when they are using over 1G of bandwidth? Should this be done at the switch? I have a feeling that a simple queue probably won't work...