Are you saying we need to riot? I'll pick up Steve on the way.

On 9/26/2016 10:31 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I was sitting here rattling my brain thinking "WTF is he talking about?" until I read his next comment.

I feel like I've been shot! Halp! ;)


On Sep 26, 2016 9:41 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Well, that's what the news says.



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    <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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    *From: *"Keefe John" <[email protected]
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    *Sent: *Monday, September 26, 2016 9:33:35 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

    why?


    On 9/26/2016 8:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

        Everyone's against policing these days.


        ;-)



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        *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent: *Monday, September 26, 2016 6:55:27 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

        Depends on if he wants to police or shape. To police you don't
        need much of a buffer, and it's a very hard cutoff. To shape
        (much better user experience), he'll need something like RED,
        WRED, codel/fq_codel and deeper buffers.


        On Sep 26, 2016 6:19 PM, "Keefe John" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            wouldn't you want zero queue buffers for true rate
            limiting?  Buffers infer traffic shaping.


            On 9/26/2016 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

                I wouldn't say most, but many do. Normally switches
                don't have the proper buffer depth for that kind of
                thing at scale, unless using those super high
                throughput, very large buffer data center oriented
                ASIC designs.


                On Sep 26, 2016 3:27 PM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Do most managed switches like the netonix offer a
                    rate limiting/queue/bandwidth limit?

                    On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Chris Wright
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                        They’re terribly inefficient, for one.

                        Chris Wright

                        Network Administrator

                        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
                        *Cameron Crum
                        *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 12:31 PM
                        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth
                        over a gig

                        What is wrong with a simple queue?

                        On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Carlos
                        Alcantar <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        we do it with ciena/cyan equipment as well.
                        Your going to be looking at more of a MEF type
                        of switch that can handle this of feature.


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                        From: Af <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of
                        Jon Auer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:29:25 PM
                        To: Animal Farm
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over
                        a gig

                        I'm using Ciena 3930s as CPE for our customers
                        with 10G ports and, for those that have
                        subrate services, using them for shaping/policing.
                        It's a switch targetted at carrier ethernet
                        demarc so it has many useful QoS and OAM options.

                        On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, TJ Trout
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                        What is the best way to throttle a customer to
                        a specific bandwidth threshold when they are
                        using over 1G of bandwidth?

                        Should this be done at the switch? I have a
                        feeling that a simple queue probably won't work...








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