Ideally I would like to buy one a year and prefer not to have 5 or 6 payments to make.
Mark > On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why not 60 instead of 48? Or 72? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Oct 17, 2016 9:17 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Lease is a straight expense on the books and you get new equipment every few > years - but there are significant upfit costs that you lose each time you > exchange the van. Sure they can be built into the lease - but your still > paying for it. > > If you buy you would normally depreciate but IRS Section 179 lets you expense > the entire thing if you want to. Sometimes that just means you are kicking > the tax can down the road. > > I usually finance them over 48 months and figure approximately 40k with > upfit. The last couple have been closer to 45k all in. The oldest ones > (the Sprinters) are about 7 years old now and were expensed and paid for long > ago. Anything we get out of them now is just a bonus. I prefer newer > equipment for the trucks as it’s a significant expense and hassle when one > breaks down and we have to reschedule work and/or have someone sitting around > without a vehicle. The PR value of having decent looking equipment with good > graphics and the ability to carry all of the assorted equipment to do the job > in one truck roll is worth the extra expense. > > Mark > >> On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I've been buying, feels like it makes more sense. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2016 8:22 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I think you can still write it off, but you have to do it via depreciation, >> etc. Leases are just much simpler. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 10/17/2016 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Why can't you write off that? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2016 8:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> If you aren’t taking the writeoff on leasing or purchasing, a far better >>> value is getting an E-150 with 60-100K miles for $15K fully loaded with >>> shelves, ladder racks, inverters, and other things we normally have to add. >>> eBay has them all the time. Considering the drive train should last >>> 300-500K miles (mines at 393K miles and runs like a top), it’s a massive >>> savings. >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:37 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>> >>> >>> That sure sounds like Transit wins in your book =) >>> >>> >>> I'll get with you someday soon to figure out a time if that works for you. >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Yep - all 4 styles. One of these days I’ll find one I like :-) Your >>> more than welcome to come visit. >>> >>> >>> Transit - good van, only thing I don’t like is the weird masking on the >>> windshield for the (nonexistent) rear view mirror. >>> >>> Nissan has been very reliable but loses a lot of storage area to the >>> ‘truck’ front end. >>> >>> Promasters are roomier than the Ford. So far so good - but they are all >>> pretty new. >>> >>> Sprinter - were nice to drive when new, not so much now. Reliability has >>> been poor, maintenance extremely expensive, and not even the Mercedes >>> dealer can figure out how to fix them when they break. I don’t believe we >>> will ever buy another Sprinter. >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> You have all three?!?! I'm looking at the Transit, NV and Sprinter. I'd >>> love to visit if you could spare some of your time. >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Come visit - you can check out the Ford Transit, Nissan NV, Chrysler >>> Promaster, and Freightliner Sprinter versions. >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I'll have to see some examples before I decide. I like the safety part of >>> it, but I'd rather be able to go from driver seat to the back without >>> walking around the entire vehicle. I also like the idea of dual sliding >>> doors for the same reason. >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Also whether to add a partition along with those shelves. (so you can make >>> extra money transporting prisoners on weekends) (or picking up stray dogs) >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:16 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>> >>> >>> So it sounds like everyone is pretty happy with Ford work vans (excluding >>> the chinsey Connect). Just need Ranger shelves and Prime Design ladder >>> racks for stuff and job's done? >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 5:37 PM, George Skorup <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> We have the Prime Design on our 2010 E150. It has the permanently attached >>> collapsible handles. Not sure exactly which model. That's the only rack I'd >>> put on any new truck. >>> >>> On 10/15/2016 4:20 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>> >>> Prime Design is the one with the ladders centered over the van. >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who makes the good one? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2016 4:48 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> All of the Prime Design ones I have seen have the removable handle. I >>> think some of the WeatherGuard ones for the lower vans have the flip down >>> handle. >>> >>> >>> >>> Horrible ladder rack… Ladder hanging over the side, handle sticking out >>> even farther: >>> >>> >>> <IMG_0464.jpeg> >>> >>> >>> >>> Good design: >>> >>> >>> <IMG_0465.jpeg> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I’ve seen vans with the Prime Design racks with the handle folded and >>> stowed like you say. I don’t know if that’s a newer design or maybe just >>> for low roof vans or something, but yes there seems to be a discrepancy. >>> Sounds like Mark >>> has them, maybe he can chime in? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>> >>> >>> Basically that, but the ones I'm familiar with the pole is always >>> connected, and once the ladder is in place the pole folds against the side >>> of the vehicle up top and has a spot for a padlock. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2016 11:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkx87s6FmA >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkx87s6FmA> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqkK856WRI&feature=youtu.be >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqkK856WRI&feature=youtu.be> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:55 AM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>> >>> >>> Good ladder kits mount the ladders on top. There is a level that pulls the >>> ladder down to the side of the vehicle, then you just pull it off the >>> hangers. They also have locks. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2016 1:36 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> For those with the higher roof vans, two questions. >>> >>> Can you go through a fast food drive through? >>> >>> >>> How do you get ladders on /off? Do they make a ladder kit that flips over >>> the side or something? >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Joe Falaschi >>> Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:26 AM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>> >>> >>> We like the dual sliding doors. We install shelving on the driver side >>> door entry way for easy access to tools. The Transit connects are decent. >>> The full size transits are too large for us - mileage is too big of a hit. >>> I’m sure they will last longer but by the time they are 5 or 6 years old >>> the wrap is tired and it’s worth nothing, new stuff is out, might as well >>> just plan on a 4 year replacement cycle and have something that always >>> works. We’ve had some >>> issues with the older transit connects as they get into the 100k >>> mileage range. Our new vans are Promaster Cities. They get better mileage >>> than our Transit Connects and are hopefully a little tougher. There are >>> some great incentives on the Ram Promaster City vans right now. >>> >>> >>> Joe Falaschi >>> >>> e-vergent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am also looking at Ford Transit, medium roof 130” wheelbase 3.5L >>> Ecoboost. Trying to decide if the dual sliding doors option is brilliant >>> or stupid. >>> >>> >>> A dealer near me bought up a bunch of 2016 Transits with hail damage, I >>> decided to pass on that. I think that means a salvage title. >>> >>> >>> <> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:10 AM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>> >>> >>> I already have a Tacoma which is great, but I'm looking for a second >>> vehicle for a second driver. I'd like to try a work van to keep everything >>> inside. Maybe even warm parts for the winter. >>> >>> >>> I'm looking at the Ford Transit and would love to hear of any additional >>> suggestions/experiences. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
