Any reason other just paying it off? I'm a fan of OPM. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Oct 17, 2016 9:57 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]> wrote: > Ideally I would like to buy one a year and prefer not to have 5 or 6 > payments to make. > > Mark > > On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Why not 60 instead of 48? Or 72? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Oct 17, 2016 9:17 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lease is a straight expense on the books and you get new equipment every >> few years - but there are significant upfit costs that you lose each time >> you exchange the van. Sure they can be built into the lease - but your >> still paying for it. >> >> If you buy you would normally depreciate but IRS Section 179 lets you >> expense the entire thing if you want to. Sometimes that just means you >> are kicking the tax can down the road. >> >> I usually finance them over 48 months and figure approximately 40k with >> upfit. The last couple have been closer to 45k all in. The oldest ones >> (the Sprinters) are about 7 years old now and were expensed and paid for >> long ago. Anything we get out of them now is just a bonus. I prefer >> newer equipment for the trucks as it’s a significant expense and hassle >> when one breaks down and we have to reschedule work and/or have someone >> sitting around without a vehicle. The PR value of having decent looking >> equipment with good graphics and the ability to carry all of the assorted >> equipment to do the job in one truck roll is worth the extra expense. >> >> Mark >> >> On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I've been buying, feels like it makes more sense. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Oct 17, 2016 8:22 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think you can still write it off, but you have to do it via >>> depreciation, etc. Leases are just much simpler. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 10/17/2016 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Why can't you write off that? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2016 8:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> If you aren’t taking the writeoff on leasing or purchasing, a far >>>> better value is getting an E-150 with 60-100K miles for $15K fully loaded >>>> with shelves, ladder racks, inverters, and other things we normally have to >>>> add. eBay has them all the time. Considering the drive train should last >>>> 300-500K miles (mines at 393K miles and runs like a top), it’s a massive >>>> savings. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 4:37 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>>> >>>> >>>> That sure sounds like Transit wins in your book =) >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll get with you someday soon to figure out a time if that works for >>>> you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yep - all 4 styles. One of these days I’ll find one I like :-) >>>> Your more than welcome to come visit. >>>> >>>> >>>> Transit - good van, only thing I don’t like is the weird masking on the >>>> windshield for the (nonexistent) rear view mirror. >>>> >>>> Nissan has been very reliable but loses a lot of storage area to the >>>> ‘truck’ front end. >>>> >>>> Promasters are roomier than the Ford. So far so good - but they are >>>> all pretty new. >>>> >>>> Sprinter - were nice to drive when new, not so much now. Reliability >>>> has been poor, maintenance extremely expensive, and not even the Mercedes >>>> dealer can figure out how to fix them when they break. I don’t believe we >>>> will ever buy another Sprinter. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> You have all three?!?! I'm looking at the Transit, NV and Sprinter. >>>> I'd love to visit if you could spare some of your time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Come visit - you can check out the Ford Transit, Nissan NV, Chrysler >>>> Promaster, and Freightliner Sprinter versions. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll have to see some examples before I decide. I like the safety part >>>> of it, but I'd rather be able to go from driver seat to the back without >>>> walking around the entire vehicle. I also like the idea of dual sliding >>>> doors for the same reason. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Also whether to add a partition along with those shelves. (so you can >>>> make extra money transporting prisoners on weekends) (or picking up stray >>>> dogs) >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 3:16 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>>> >>>> >>>> So it sounds like everyone is pretty happy with Ford work vans >>>> (excluding the chinsey Connect). Just need Ranger shelves and Prime Design >>>> ladder racks for stuff and job's done? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 5:37 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We have the Prime Design on our 2010 E150. It has the permanently >>>> attached collapsible handles. Not sure exactly which model. That's the only >>>> rack I'd put on any new truck. >>>> >>>> On 10/15/2016 4:20 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>>> >>>> Prime Design is the one with the ladders centered over the van. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Who makes the good one? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2016 4:48 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> All of the Prime Design ones I have seen have the removable handle. >>>> I think some of the WeatherGuard ones for the lower vans have the flip >>>> down handle. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Horrible ladder rack… Ladder hanging over the side, handle sticking out >>>> even farther: >>>> >>>> >>>> <IMG_0464.jpeg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good design: >>>> >>>> >>>> <IMG_0465.jpeg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I’ve seen vans with the Prime Design racks with the handle folded and >>>> stowed like you say. I don’t know if that’s a newer design or maybe just >>>> for low roof vans or something, but yes there seems to be a discrepancy. >>>> Sounds like Mark has them, maybe he can chime in? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>>> >>>> >>>> Basically that, but the ones I'm familiar with the pole is always >>>> connected, and once the ladder is in place the pole folds against the side >>>> of the vehicle up top and has a spot for a padlock. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2016 11:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkx87s6FmA >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqkK856WRI&feature=youtu.be >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:55 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>>> >>>> >>>> Good ladder kits mount the ladders on top. There is a level that pulls >>>> the ladder down to the side of the vehicle, then you just pull it off the >>>> hangers. They also have locks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2016 1:36 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> For those with the higher roof vans, two questions. >>>> >>>> Can you go through a fast food drive through? >>>> >>>> >>>> How do you get ladders on /off? Do they make a ladder kit that flips >>>> over the side or something? >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi >>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:26 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>>> >>>> >>>> We like the dual sliding doors. We install shelving on the driver side >>>> door entry way for easy access to tools. The Transit connects are decent. >>>> The full size transits are too large for us - mileage is too big of a hit. >>>> I’m sure they will last longer but by the time they are 5 or 6 years old >>>> the wrap is tired and it’s worth nothing, new stuff is out, might as well >>>> just plan on a 4 year replacement cycle and have something that always >>>> works. We’ve had some issues with the older transit connects as they get >>>> into the 100k mileage range. Our new vans are Promaster Cities. They get >>>> better mileage than our Transit Connects and are hopefully a little >>>> tougher. There are some great incentives on the Ram Promaster City vans >>>> right now. >>>> >>>> >>>> Joe Falaschi >>>> >>>> e-vergent >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I am also looking at Ford Transit, medium roof 130” wheelbase 3.5L >>>> Ecoboost. Trying to decide if the dual sliding doors option is brilliant >>>> or stupid. >>>> >>>> >>>> A dealer near me bought up a bunch of 2016 Transits with hail damage, I >>>> decided to pass on that. I think that means a salvage title. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:10 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans >>>> >>>> >>>> I already have a Tacoma which is great, but I'm looking for a second >>>> vehicle for a second driver. I'd like to try a work van to keep everything >>>> inside. Maybe even warm parts for the winter. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm looking at the Ford Transit and would love to hear of any >>>> additional suggestions/experiences. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
