We need to go into the TV and rescue you from The Upside Down which is full
of Angier Things:

http://boingboing.net/2016/10/19/trumps-angrier-things.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dan Petermann
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

And that is the problem. People continue to think they need to vote for the
lesser of two evils, never realizing they are still voting for EVIL!

Vote for anyone but these two idiots. 

But, but, but.. the other candidate that I hate more will win!

Big deal, what is more important to you:

A. The less evil guy is in the White House

B. Looking yourself in the eye and being proud you didn't take a dump on
your principles.

No matter who wins, don't blame me, I'm not voting for either one.

On Oct 20, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

> Being a well informed Canadian all I can do is look at the United States
and feel very very sorry for you.  This is the best you have to offer.  You
are forced into picking the lesser of two evils again and YES both are
evil... even though one is a little more evil than the other.  
> 
> But I would choose to vote for someone who has a history of not killing
people. There is a trail of lies, deceit and murder behind Hillary and her
husband that cannot be put back into power. As far as I know Trump has never
done anything to kill anyone through action or inaction. 
> 
> Not to mention if the Russians love Trump so much - wouldn't it be in your
best interests to have a very good relationship with Russia?  To do
meaningful business with them?  
> 
> I'm just thinking from a historical and a logical perspective.  
> 
> Trump is no saint.  I think Trump is a narcissists with his own self
interests at heart and will say whatever it takes to get into office.  Its
almost as if he was a clown they threw in there to ensure that Hillary gets
elected. I don't think Hillary would beat any real Republican though.  
> 
> So in conclusion after seeing all the evidence of voter fraud, the
wikileaks material that this entire system is indeed rigged.  This makes me
very very sad.  
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
> To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 9:24:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]
> 
> Mike
> I think you need to do your research on Soros if you didnt you really dont
have much to say either. Sorry its the truth.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 10/20/16 09:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]
> 
> People that bring up Soros or the Koch brothers are immediately punted as
not having anything worthwhile to say.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  From: "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]
> 
> You all forgot to say the media as been against him and used his words
against him so this is why you dont believe what MSM (main street media)
spits out from there mouths they are all paid by same people (to create
lies). Reason why I say this is because everybody in DC is scared of trump
because they know that there career can be gone very soon. Also George Soros
where do I even start with him....? Basically he came out on video stating
that trump will win the election but Killary is a done deal basically what
that means Killary will get into the WH which is very sad.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 10/20/16 09:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]
> 
> Wow. Gentleman. I watched the whole debate, maybe not as intently as some,
but I did watch it. I really didn't see anything to get so upset
about.Hillary turned in the performance expected meaning very good demeanor,
logical well thought out positions. I don't agree with most of them and
evidently "facts" are not what they used to be. Face it, both these clowns
couldn't spot a fact if it slapped them with a cold fish.
> Trump. Well, he turned in a much better performance than the previous
debates and if there were 5 he might actually come off pretty good by the
last one. Still submitted to his basic desire to talk about himself and his
stuff. He had some good points but missed opportunities to take Hillary down
a notch by talking about himself. I can't believe he didn't counter the
whole Russian wiki leaks thing with the fact the US pressured to have
Assange shut down after denying it. On the other hand, I don't know anyone
who thought that didn't happen. The US is on record against him already.
> 
> 
> They both are living in some fantasy world where you can say and do
whatever you want and it all balances out in the end. Free college? Yea no
problem, costs nothing. Double the size of the military? Why not, growth
covers everything. National debt? Yea we reduced it. What? Its twice what it
was 8 years ago? No it went down? 
> Every politician does this crap. D and R. I got kicked off a conference
call with our congreeman two years ago for pointing out the ludicrous lack
of math skills he possessed.
> 
> 
> Mutt. Thank God we still have the freedom in this country to open our
mouths and prove ourselves the idiots we are. If you want to call the
president a Mutt or most anything else in a gathering of friends go for it.
Anyone hoping to have the office ought to understand the obligation to treat
the office with decorum and respect. The whole rigged thing is just stupid.
I understand where he is coming from with the love fest much of the media
has with anything on the left but come on. So if you win is that rigged? I
believe in voter ID laws but that doesn't mean it is such a huge problem it
is enough to change the course of an election.
> 
> 
> In the end, I don't think he did enough to sway the middle 20% or so he
needs half of. What a mess.I wonder what our debt will be after the next 8
years. We are almost to the point now that interest rates will always be
zero. The US government can ill afford "normalized" interest rates due to
the size of the debt. I honestly can't see how anyone's involvement with
running the government can be viewed as positive. What a mess. I really
believe that is why truly worthy people refused to get involved. Nobody with
a great reputation wants to be involved in a no win scenario. Well, maybe
Romney but he is truly an exceptional person. I wish that is what we had
running, exceptional people in a positive way instead f what we have.
>  
>  On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:45 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> The Supreme Court did all the intercourse that year.
> 
> bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>  On 10/19/2016 9:36 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>  
>  
> As did Al Gore in 2000?
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jaime Solorza
>  To: Animal Farm
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:41 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]
> 
> 
> He fucked himself with vote question... 
> On Oct 19, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> Goes to character...cheat on wife cheat on all On Oct 19, 2016 8:13 
> PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know. I don't about laughing. I think they are likely shocked and
fearful.
>  On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, 9:07 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>  
> 
> We have two lying, cheating, disrespectful sociopaths on stage right now.
Neither one can answer a straight question with a straight answer.
> They BOTH likely belong in jail, not running for the highest office in the
United States.
> This is terrible. Disgraceful. We are the laughing stock of the world.



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