OK... Later as I on kitchen duty

On Nov 24, 2016 9:13 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

> Hi Jamie,
>
> Happy Thanksgiving....
>
> I would be interested in seeing some pictures of these that you are
> describing (if possible) and also if you have any ref. / docs/ explanation
> of the 'Franklin Method'....
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
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> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 23, 2016 4:33:44 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e/6 tower grounding
>
> We ground all cables from antennas and/or radios at top by mast/tower and
> before it enters cabinets...we use two or three points depending on length
> of cable runs.   As I have stated before, we use an aerial rod with as a
> direct path to ground rod/ring we can install.
> We use the Franklin method which has worked well for us whether is an MDS,
> Schneider or Freewave radio using Heliax RF cable or a POE powered type
> radio such as Ubiquiti , Mimosa or Cambium using Ethernet cable.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
>> There is a reason for grounding anything ...
>>
>> Just connecting stuff for the sake of connecting to ground is not a good
>> thing, actually is a bad thing.
>>
>> There is a reason why the outer core/conductor shield of LMR cable is
>> connected to the ground using the kits being described, and typically that
>> reason does not apply to the doing the same with Shielded Ethernet cable.
>>
>> I would strongly suggest that folks try to gain an understanding on what
>> they are doing and why they are doing it, rather than hey I see him do this
>> so I am going to do it as well...  :)
>>
>> There are a number of great documents that address what to do and why to
>> do so.... one such article was / is done by Chris S of Netonix ( posted in
>> the netonix forums), pretty comprehensive, and done with adequate
>> explanations.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
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>>
>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:18:51 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e/6 tower grounding
>>
>> I've never tried those ground kits in real life.  I'm assuming you
>> wouldn't use them on a foil shielded cable but rather one with armor.
>>
>> I don't think I would do it unless the tower owner made me do it.  Even
>> where I was told it had to be R56 the guy doing the inspection was happy
>> with an SS at the bottom for the Ethernet.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: 11/22/2016 8:17:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT5e/6 tower grounding
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1][image: Inline image 2]
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of opinions about this.  R56 doesn't really apply too well to
>>> things that are Ethernet and POE.
>>> Try to bring all grounds back to a single point.  Bond things together
>>> like the ice bridge to the tower so you are not counting on the mechanical
>>> connection to also be the lightning circuit.
>>>
>>> People using my products use the grounding RJ45 plugs which interconnect
>>> to my surge protectors.
>>> You never know which direction the surge will be coming from either.
>>> Many times it comes in on the power.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dev
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:54 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] CAT5e/6 tower grounding
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve heard it’s good to ground multiple places, like up by the radio,
>>> down by the turn to the ice bridge and inside the shelter, but how do you
>>> that (and is it necessary) with CAT5e/6? Do you strip a section off the
>>> insulation and tie the drain wire to multiple ground lugs? Sounds hard to
>>> do and not get water in the cable. I just have been running surge
>>> suppressors inside the building that the cable plugs into before heading to
>>> the switches/etc. What should I be doing?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
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