True, but it's not like UBNT has had real working PTP sync on anything
other than the airfiber line... I'm pretty sure those guys know what
they're doing, so I expect it'll work like it should.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ptp sync and ptmp sync are two totally different animals
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once
>> it gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the
>> same platform
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just
>>> sync like titanium had sync?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping
>>>> prices low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
>>>> Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
>>>> with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now
>>>>> jesus is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>>>>>> Some Cliff Notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it
>>>>>> works vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>>>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>>>>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>>>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Steve D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>>>>>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>>>>>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 
>>>>>> 5ghz?
>>>>>> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I 
>>>>>> literally
>>>>>> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz 
>>>>>> network
>>>>>> into epmp in one move
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 25% is what I remember.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that
>>>>>> low though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the 
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> number I heard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up
>>>>>> making more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>>>>>> delivered. Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>>>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>>>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>>>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no 
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>>>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>>>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>>>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *check the Release Notes for complete details*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - *Loco M5 XW*
>>>>>>    - *Loco M5 XM*
>>>>>>    - *NanoStation M5 XW*
>>>>>>    - *NanoStation M5 XM*
>>>>>>    - *NanoBridge M5 XM*
>>>>>>    - *Rocket M5 XM*
>>>>>>    - *Rocket M5 XW*
>>>>>>    - *Powerbeam M5 XW*
>>>>>>    - *Airgrid M5HP XW*
>>>>>>    - *Airgrid M5 XM*
>>>>>>    - *NanoBeam M5 XW*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - XM + XW model
>>>>>>    - Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>>    - RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>>    - RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>>    - RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>>>>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the
>>>>>> road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a
>>>>>> time/cash saver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>>>>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mikrotik?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
>>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
>>>>>> SW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One
>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>>> access
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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