You don't have to hit me off list for my 2 cents. Offerings are fine. Contracting and billing border on extortion. I had a two year contract with them that I cancelled. They continued to bill and I tried for months to get them to stop. They eventually sent me to a collections firm. I asked for contract copies and all they ever would send was a copy of the bill with a contract date printed on it 2 years in the future. When I asked to get a copy of contract I signed that either had that date or an auto renewal they would just resend the invoice. This even though I sent them recordings, certified letters, and email chains from their people accepting the cancellation.
I have no idea if it still shows up on my businesses' credit but it doesn't much matter I guess. I haven't been turned down for anything. Maybe all the CC guys know them already and discount their reporting. Anyway, their billing sucks. They refuse to let you cancel. I would definitely read the part about cancellation. Maybe ask to have the contract signor on their part initial that section. Bastards. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > We just signed a contract with them. Their billing and sales practices are > a bit shady. Hit me offline for more info. But their pricing was too good > to turn down. > > On Jan 6, 2017 1:21 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: > > > I am wanting to know if they're reliable, if they deliver what they quote > (unlike some other companies) and horror stories.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2017 12:16 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > What are you asking for exactly? Give them your address and how much > bandwidth you want (1g or 10g) and get a price. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < > par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Fitzpatrick, George > *To:* jayful...@cyberbroadband.net > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2017 8:32 AM > *Subject:* RE: Windstream Wholesale Wave Pricing Promotion > > Good Morning Jay, > > > > Was hoping to speak to see if we could lower some of your network costs > or provide some network diversity. > > > > [image: cid:image001.png@01D23119.CD5FD980] > > [image: cid:image002.png@01D23119.CD5FD980] > > Windstream Wholesale is expanding our fiber network across the country, > providing Ethernet, IP Transit, DIA, MPLS, *Dark Fiber*, Wave and > 10/40/100 GE services. > > We are the 6th largest fiber provider in the country, Fortune 500, with > about $6 billion in revenue. > > Windstream has over 8,000 corporate locations on-net, over 5,000 wireless > towers on-net, 1200 service ready 10GE POP locations, 400 service ready > 100GE POP locations nationwide > > > > Please direct me to the appropriate people who would find this relevant or > please let me know when we can have a quick overview call, thanks. > > > > *G**eorge** F**itzpatrick **::* windstream wholesale * ::* content , > media, gaming & cloud providers > Account Director igeorge.fitzpatr...@windstream.com I 917-444-5933 > <(917)%20444-5933>(m) > > | more info | interactive network map > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2017 11:46 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > Sure! What was their pricing for the 10G Wave? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller > > > *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2017 11:43 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > > > > > Does anyone want to Comment on Windstream? :) > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: <af@afmug.com> > > Subject: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2017 11:25 AM > > It was a bit warmer when I did it in Illinois. Perhaps –20 and the > droplets did make a shattering sound when they hit the ground. > > > > *From:* Bill Prince > > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2017 10:22 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > > > Colder. > > At about -45 to -50 It will freeze before it hits the ground > > At about -70 to -75 it will freeze shortly after hitting the air, > sometimes explode in the air. > > I tried this when I experienced -55 when I lived in Minnesota. You could > spit, and the spittle would make a tinkling sound as the frozen bits hit > the ground. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 1/6/2017 8:38 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > My wife was asking if it was cold enough to throw a pan of hot water in > the air and have it freeze before hitting the ground.� We have an > employee from Texas that has never seen this.� I told her I thought it > needed to be �15 or colder for that to happen.� It has been a long time > since I have done it.� > > � > > *From:* Travis Johnson > > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2017 9:32 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > � > > -12F at my house this morning. School has been canceled here the last two > days. > > Travis > > On 1/6/2017 9:22 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > -7 at my house this morning.� Snappy! > > � > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2017 9:16 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream.... > > � > > � > > Good morning everyone. > > � > > I'm looking at upstream providers as the contract with my current (not so > happy) provider is nearly up.� I got an unsolicited quote from windstream > this morning that looked pretty good for 10 gig wave.� As as we > considering fiber to the home in the near future I thought I'd give this a > second look.� Glancing through list archives and the web, I've seen > windstream has had problems delivering committed bandwidth in the past.� > I've also read they did a lot of buying and may not have integrated very > well.� > > � > > Recently I saw a post from Chuck Hogg explaining several WISPA folks had > gotten together with windstream folks and got a list of tower lit locations > which I think is pretty good.� We are also looking at several options - > I'm just looking at price + value + our future needs - knowing all of this > changes dramatically every time we look at it. > > � > > Finally I know windstream recently purchased earthlink which a few years > ago purchased ITC Deltacom which had a pretty extensive network in > Alabama.� We may also need connectivity in centurylink areas - so this > may be a better option for us than trying to do some kind of ATT ASE > circuit - i just don't know yet. > > � > > So - please - let me know your thoughts on windstream.� Is anyone using > them now and unhappy?� If so, why? > > � > > I'm also headed out for a few hours so i won't get a chance to reply to > your comments until later this afternoon when Alabama's semiannual > snowmagedden event begins - so we'll all be trapped in our homes for 24-48 > hours starting about 3 pm.... :) > > � > > Happy Friday! > > � > > � > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *Total Control Panel* > > Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> > > To: ja...@litewire.net > <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> > > From: > 0100015974e06d7a-1f108534-3716-4264-8e55-388fed6f43f6-000...@amazonses.com > > Remove > <https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=18911181864&domain=litewire.net> > amazonses.com from my allow list > > *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com > <http://amazonses.com> is on your allow list.* > > > >
