I should have said Medicaid.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 4:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living

That's my plan when I get a bit older.  That or a Glock.


On Fri, Jan 13, 2017, 4:13 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  You can always put all your assets in a trust controlled by  your kids, pay 
yourself minimum wage, have the company buy your meals, cars, fuel.  And then 
fly with no insurance.  Medicare will take care of you.  

  From: Eric Kuhnke 
  Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:10 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living
  $2100 a month for health insurance???


  My wife and I pay $150 Canadian a month for both of us for the BC provincial 
health insurance...  Part of the federally funded system. 


  I cannot even fathom the idea of paying $500, $1000 or more for health 
insurance for a family of 2 people, or 2 people + children, etc.


  It's true that income taxes and other taxes are higher in Canada, but if you 
consider that $2100 as a "tax" on your life and add it up to your federal 
payroll deducations for US income tax, you may actually be paying a lot more in 
a year than I do. No matter what income bracket you're in.


  On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> 
wrote:

    I'm guessing this information is like a lot of you out there.

    Except maybe my earnings because I am making about double median gross 
salary for my city.

    I'm not saying I work double, but I do fulfill many roles as the only 
salary employee of my startup ISP.
    I don't think I can replace myself for the same cost to the company, so I 
feel ok with that.

    I don't live extravagantly, but I do live comfortably.

    I have a 3100 sqr foot rambler I've lived in since 2001 with a house 
payment of around $1500 a month.

    But my biggest expense is health/insurance and medical.

    I now pay about $2100 a month for my family health insurance through IHC.
    I just signed up for a good Dental Gold plan at $100 a month for my family, 
but since it's not company I have to wait 6-12 months for a lot of the benefits 
:(
    The insurance deductibles are I think around $6000 a year and I have 
medications that eat up most of that.

    I just upped my life and disability insurance on myself and my wife to make 
sure things don't go bad if I die, that's around $550 a month.

    I think I spend about $1000 a month on eating, groceries and movies/date 
nights, at least that's what I came up to in December so that might be a bit 
off.

    I've got real estate I'm still trying to sell, but it's not the panica 
everyone says it is, lol!

    I just feel like finances don't go as far as they used to a few years ago.

    I'm not sparking a political debate, just wanted to see if everyone see 
things in a similar light?

    Or am I just doing the wrong things?



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