For DataCenter. Doesn't help SP On Jan 23, 2017 10:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> It looks like EVPN\VXLAN should be the new targets. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, January 23, 2017 8:44:01 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Switch expert help/advice > > Ill very much so would like to se TRILL and/or SPB implemente in major > vendor Switches… But it appears as it will never happen > > Not enough traction > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Reynolds < > j...@kyneticwifi.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Switch expert help/advice > > Only works for ring topologies, not tree. > > > > *Gino Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> G.8032 ERP always worked great for us. Very fast convergence. I think >> every manufacturer has their own spin on it. >> >> On Jan 21, 2017 7:44 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >> >>> You want priority lowest on the switch that is 'most central' to your >>> network. >>> >>> For edge ports you probably want bpdu block or shutdown depending on how >>> you want to handle it. >>> >>> You really need to control bpdu's coming from your customers. You don't >>> want a customer accidentally (or maliciously) taking control of your >>> topology. >>> >>> Mark Radabaugh >>> Amplex >>> 22690 Pemberville Rd >>> Luckey, OH 43447 >>> 419-261-5996 <%28419%29%20261-5996> >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>> STP and RSTP really need to die. TRILL and SPB were invented because STP >>> and RSTP have some big deficiencies. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:02:39 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Switch expert help/advice >>> >>> Don’t all switches use some form of STP/RSTP Gino? >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m talking about best practices for a switch bank really. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do I set STP priority number lower than the default on the switch for >>> the ports going to other switches? >>> >>> >>> >>> And what is the term or feature that means ignore STP type packets from >>> that port (customer ports). >>> >>> >>> >>> I think I’m getting STP type topology changes every time a downstream >>> customer port has a up/down change etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don’t want those. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:00 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Switch expert help/advice >>> >>> >>> >>> Why are you using stp? >>> >>> On 1/18/17, 12:33 AM, "Af on behalf of Sterling Jacobson" >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino Villarini* >>> >>> President >>> >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2718B.144BF200] >>> >>> <af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of sterl...@avative.net >>> <af-boun...@afmug.com%20on%20behalf%20of%20sterl...@avative.net>> wrote: >>> >>> >Any of you guys work with switches a lot? >>> > >>> >I use banks of switches in my fiber, set up per neighborhood. >>> > >>> >But really they are all linked via fiber so it's pretty much like a >>> >datacenter. >>> > >>> >I'm using a few MPLS/VPLS tunnels to the switch banks. >>> > >>> >I'm having a real hard time tracking down a loop issue though. >>> > >>> >It's related to MikroTik lovely change in version 6.38 for STP/RSTP >>> >bridge stuff. >>> > >>> >My problem is with an IBM switch I don't know very well. >>> > >>> >I suspect I have settings wrong for STP/RSTP etc. >>> > >>> >The switches are a simple configuration of VLAN 1/default for customer >>> >traffic, then another VLAN for management from the device at their >>> >house/MDU. >>> > >>> >I pull out the VLAN management at the mikrotik and bridge it with an >>> area >>> >wide L2 MPLS network. >>> > >>> >My problem is the IBM switches keep shutting down access to customer >>> data >>> >or management or the other switches they are connected to. >>> >The crude method of recovery is reboot the switch. >>> > >>> >At the 'head' of the VPLS network I use an EOIP tunnel to a hosted >>> >mikrotik that hosts the Dude and a few other management VM's on that >>> >layer2 network. >>> > >>> >I'm regretting I did that and didn't create a more sophisticated routed >>> >management network. >>> > >>> >But the hosted mikrotik is complaining of loop packets and sometimes >>> just >>> >goes wild and shuts down it's EOIP connecting interface for 60 seconds. >>> >I can't seem to find a way to tell it to NOT do that either, seems like >>> >it's built in to 6.38 no matter what Loop Protection I turn off or STP I >>> >disable. >>> >It's not like it's a lot of traffic, it's just seeing some BPDU or STP >>> >type packets and killing itself. >>> > >>> >What is the best practice for switches regarding RSTP/PVRST BDPU guards >>> >and STP root paths etc? >>> > >>> >The switches typically have two uplink ports going to the router or >>> >another switch, the rest are customer facing ports. >>> >>> > >
