YES. Customs == border.

On Feb 15, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So he wasn't on US soil?  At customs check in, our rights get suspended?
> I need to consult the oracle...
>
> On Feb 15, 2017 6:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Decent writeup here:
>>
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas
>> a-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Engineer was on US soil, at airport, not border..... Good luck with that
>> > fact
>> >
>> > On Feb 15, 2017 4:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has
>> >> legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are
>> not a
>> >> threat.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck with that.
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me
>> their
>> >>> warrant.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> This recently happened to an individual with a government issued phone
>> >>> from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have
>> >>> clearance to view the classification of the material on this device.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices
>> like
>> >>> phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand
>> that you
>> >>> unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and social
>> media
>> >>> posts.  Even if you are just an ordinary citizen.  If you think they
>> need a
>> >>> warrant for this, you would be mistaken.  They can probably only
>> detain your
>> >>> for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the same
>> >>> rights as you  would if a cop stopped you on the street.
>> >>>
>> >>> There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived.  That
>> would
>> >>> probably be a good one to take on foreign trips.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM
>> >>> To: af@afmug.com
>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he
>> left
>> >>>
>> >>> Computer wore tennis shoes.
>> >>> Janitor
>> >>> Mop bucket
>> >>> Been done before
>> >>>
>> >>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM
>> >>> To: af@afmug.com
>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he
>> left
>> >>>
>> >>> This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now
>> the
>> >>> janitors can take a little gander every now and then
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the
>> N.S.A.
>> >>> may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance
>> >>> operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping
>> laws.
>> >>> These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and
>> emails
>> >>> that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people
>> abroad that
>> >>> cross domestic network switches.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://pjmedia.com/trending/ 2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-
>> >>> end-obama-administration-gave- nsa-broad-new-powers/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team
>> >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>>
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