YES. Customs == border. On Feb 15, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So he wasn't on US soil? At customs check in, our rights get suspended? > I need to consult the oracle... > > On Feb 15, 2017 6:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > >> Decent writeup here: >> >> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas >> a-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/ >> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza >> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Engineer was on US soil, at airport, not border..... Good luck with that >> > fact >> > >> > On Feb 15, 2017 4:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has >> >> legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are >> not a >> >> threat. >> >> >> >> Good luck with that. >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me >> their >> >>> warrant. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds >> >>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> This recently happened to an individual with a government issued phone >> >>> from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have >> >>> clearance to view the classification of the material on this device. >> >>> >> >>> On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices >> like >> >>> phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand >> that you >> >>> unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and social >> media >> >>> posts. Even if you are just an ordinary citizen. If you think they >> need a >> >>> warrant for this, you would be mistaken. They can probably only >> detain your >> >>> for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the same >> >>> rights as you would if a cop stopped you on the street. >> >>> >> >>> There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived. That >> would >> >>> probably be a good one to take on foreign trips. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM >> >>> To: af@afmug.com >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he >> left >> >>> >> >>> Computer wore tennis shoes. >> >>> Janitor >> >>> Mop bucket >> >>> Been done before >> >>> >> >>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM >> >>> To: af@afmug.com >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he >> left >> >>> >> >>> This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now >> the >> >>> janitors can take a little gander every now and then >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the >> N.S.A. >> >>> may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance >> >>> operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping >> laws. >> >>> These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and >> emails >> >>> that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people >> abroad that >> >>> cross domestic network switches. >> >>> >> >>> https://pjmedia.com/trending/ 2017/02/15/surprise-at-the- >> >>> end-obama-administration-gave- nsa-broad-new-powers/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >> team >> >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >