I dont know the laws on viewing classified information. Is it criminal to do so, like say im chillin at the CIA and some guy drops a folder labelled classified, if I pick it up and look at it is that criminal?
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I would have asked him for a chain of custody receipt. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:00 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he > left > > Yeah there are all kind of rules about local police and even emergency > services at international airports internal boundaries, we learned about > this for EMS, not sure why, I guess it would matter if you worked near one. > > But still, those who posess classified information are responsibleish for > its handling, as long as you don't ask Loretta lynch. No different than > going to a foreign country. This guy probably got taught about this when he > acquired the clearance, it was probably all of seven words in a long > discussion or whatever one does to get clearance. It would have been a > better story if he had stood his ground until it moved up the chain for > clarification. > > On Feb 15, 2017 8:31 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > > Sorry, meant to include this as well. > > > DEFINING THE BORDER > > The definition of the border for federal immigration enforcement purposes > is broad. Activities take place along international land boundaries. Border > enforcement also takes place at many seaports and along the coastline. > Related maritime operations occur along the northern border on the Great > Lakes and St. Lawrence Seaway, and around U.S. territories, such as Puerto > Rico. > > In addition, border enforcement exists well inside the United States at > international airports and up to 100 miles inside the physical border with > Mexico or Canada, where U.S. Customs and Border Protection has the > authority to operate checkpoints and transportation checks. > > > > http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-brie > fs/2015/02/immigration-enforcement-along-us-borders-and-at-ports-of-entry > > On Feb 15, 2017 7:56 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > >> YES. Customs == border. >> >> On Feb 15, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> So he wasn't on US soil? At customs check in, our rights get >>> suspended? I need to consult the oracle... >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2017 6:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Decent writeup here: >>>> >>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas >>>> a-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza >>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Engineer was on US soil, at airport, not border..... Good luck with >>>> that >>>> > fact >>>> > >>>> > On Feb 15, 2017 4:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has >>>> >> legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are >>>> not a >>>> >> threat. >>>> >> >>>> >> Good luck with that. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me >>>> their >>>> >>> warrant. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds >>>> >>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> This recently happened to an individual with a government issued >>>> phone >>>> >>> from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have >>>> >>> clearance to view the classification of the material on this device. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices >>>> like >>>> >>> phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand >>>> that you >>>> >>> unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and >>>> social media >>>> >>> posts. Even if you are just an ordinary citizen. If you think >>>> they need a >>>> >>> warrant for this, you would be mistaken. They can probably only >>>> detain your >>>> >>> for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the >>>> same >>>> >>> rights as you would if a cop stopped you on the street. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived. That >>>> would >>>> >>> probably be a good one to take on foreign trips. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM >>>> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before >>>> he left >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Computer wore tennis shoes. >>>> >>> Janitor >>>> >>> Mop bucket >>>> >>> Been done before >>>> >>> >>>> >>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm >>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM >>>> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before >>>> he left >>>> >>> >>>> >>> This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now >>>> the >>>> >>> janitors can take a little gander every now and then >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the >>>> N.S.A. >>>> >>> may do with the information gathered by its most powerful >>>> surveillance >>>> >>> operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping >>>> laws. >>>> >>> These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and >>>> emails >>>> >>> that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people >>>> abroad that >>>> >>> cross domestic network switches. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> https://pjmedia.com/trending/ 2017/02/15/surprise-at-the- >>>> >>> end-obama-administration-gave- nsa-broad-new-powers/ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team >>>> >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
