i have 100% confidence in our system... Zero in Trump's ability to do
anything  worthwhile.... He does the glamour shots... Repeal restrictions
on dumping coal related crap into streams and forest in the name of
creating jobs... Same with pipe line..... Short sighted.... Our mother has
been raped and left to die in disgrace.. Stock market will do what it does
in long run with or without help of Afraid of his Shadow,  Draft Dodging,
Clown Trump...

On Feb 16, 2017 4:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

FWIW, my investment advisor just recommended moving out of individual
stocks and into managed funds of mixed bonds and equities, as well as
emphasizing Europe.  Evidently their analysts believe we are into a bubble
in US stock prices and that President Agent Orange is likely to mess
something up but no way to predict what it will be and hedge against it.





*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:59 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...



We will survive him.  I really like what the stock market is doing.  UAW
pushing buy American again.  Liberal heads exploding.  All good stuff.



I still don’t like him, probably never will.  But I do enjoy seeing him
giving the media crap.  I like that he is unpredictable.  Bull in china
shop, monkey with machine gun maybe it will churn the swamp enough to
actually change things.



Funny, someone needled him about whether or not he read some document, he
missed the classic Nancy Pelosi “we have to pass the bill so you can find
out what’s in it comment”...  Would have been a good rejoinder.



Just so he does not start another shooting war...



*From:* Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:51 PM

*To:* [email protected]

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left



For all of our sakes I hope he is really going to be good at his new job
and that the press really is being unfair to him.

I listened to some of the press conference on NPR today during lunch.  He
definitely was combative with the press.



I think it's pretty clear to anyone that he won only just barely.  The
numbers speak for themselves.  But like the inauguration crowd thing, he
just can't accept it for some reason.  On this particular point at least he
needs to grow up.





------ Original Message ------

From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>

To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]>

Sent: 2/16/2017 5:34:59 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left



Now my sides are aching.... Fine tuned machine....



https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
washingtonpost.com%2Famphtml%2Fnews%2Fpost-politics%2Fwp%
2F2017%2F02%2F16%2Ftrump-says-he-inherited-a-mess-blasts-
media-and-detractors-for-treatment-of-his-administration%2F#pt0-543071



On Feb 16, 2017 3:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

I will always wonder about agent orange.  When I was a kid, my dad sold
farm chemicals to supplement the meager living the dry land wheat
farm/ranch was producing.  We had barrels of 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T around and I
remember getting coated with the stuff by an aerial applicator once.  The
barrels were actually orange and had the Olin logos on them.  This was
early 1960s.  None of us ever suffered the symptoms commonly associated
with agent orange.  Odd...



*From:* Bill Prince

*Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:26 PM

*To:* [email protected]

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left



Any relationship between reality and Agent Orange is purely coincidental.



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 2/16/2017 2:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Strange.  I think he purchased a reality distortion field generator from
Steve Jobs but does not understand that it only works in Cupertino.



*From:* Jaime Solorza

*Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:50 PM

*To:* Animal Farm

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left



Laughing my ass off

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Famp.
usatoday.com%2Fstory%2F98002648%2F#pt0-986112







On Feb 16, 2017 2:00 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:

You made me look it up Josh. Not having had to cross the border in a while,
I was in the dark. Then, as it happens, I listened to this podcast:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/what-we-know-about-border/



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 2/15/2017 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has legal
rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are not a
threat.



Good luck with that.



On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:

If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me their
warrant.



On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
wrote:



This recently happened to an individual with a government issued phone from
NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have clearance to
view the classification of the material on this device.



On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices like
phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand that
you unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and social
media posts.  Even if you are just an ordinary citizen.  If you think they
need a warrant for this, you would be mistaken.  They can probably only
detain your for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have
the same rights as you  would if a cop stopped you on the street.



There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived.  That would
probably be a good one to take on foreign trips.





*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left



Computer wore tennis shoes.

Janitor

Mop bucket

Been done before



*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM

*To:* [email protected]

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left



This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now the
janitors can take a little gander every now and then



On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A.
may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance
operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws.
These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails
that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that
cross domestic network switches.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-
end-obama-administration-gave-nsa-broad-new-powers/





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