I'm trying to figure out what electricity has to do with oil from your
statement.

You can also make a decision to reduce oil consumption where logical.
This would be a good thing from a monetary and national defense
standpoint among other things.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:55 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Being against oil but using oil...
> Think FedEx can do its thing without oil?
>
> If you are truly against oil, stop using it.
> Go to the forest.  No kerosene lamps, deer fat tallow candles perhaps.
> No guns, takes oil to make guns...
>
> etc
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 8:53 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread
>
> Would you mind clarifying the follow a bit? Thanks
>
> "Being against oil but using electricity and vehicles and FedEx."
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:32 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I like driving my gas and diesel vehicles.
>> I like the products derived from oil like the jacket on CAT 5 cable and
>> printed circuit boards.
>> I like the price of oil to be as low as possible.
>> I prefer having sources in this hemisphere and not funding the Arab world.
>>
>> I too have built many miles of copper and fiber over public and tribal
>> lands.  I have gone through the exact same NEPA and FLPMA process as the
>> pipeline many many times.  I consider myself a NEPA expert and am
>> currently
>> advising the US Senate on ways to make that process work faster.
>>
>> Pissing and moaning that folks with more money than you are building a
>> pipe
>> to make even more money than you sounds like sour grapes and jealousy.  If
>> you are against the “commons” don’t use common frequencies.  Don’t use
>> ROWs.
>> Don’t use electricity.
>>
>> I don’t get several things:
>>
>> Being against oil but using electricity and vehicles and FedEx.
>> Being against certain forms of arguably safer and more efficient oil
>> transportation.
>> Being against certain rich people doing business but attempting to become
>> a
>> richer person yourself.
>> Being against the use of public and private ROWs for oil pipelines but not
>> for water pipelines, natural gas pipelines, sewers, fiber cables or
>> electric.
>>
>> And being a second or third generation wanna-be 1960s social justice
>> warrior
>> going thousands of miles to hang with other like minded people and think
>> you
>> are really doing anything be being cold, being an ass, being stupid and
>> wasting your time and the resources of local, state and federal
>> authorities.
>> Those folks are punks.  (Their parents probably have BA in liberal arts).
>>
>> And yes, BTW, I too have made deals with tribes.  It is as Lewis
>> describes.
>> You make the deal, you pay the money and more often than not when tribal
>> leadership changes, the deal no longer exists and you have another round
>> of
>> payola.  I have native American heritage in my blood. Don’t get all butt
>> hurt when I say it is called “indian giving” for a reason.  Tribes have
>> communal property.  You never own anything, you just possess it for a time
>> until some other tribal member decides they need it.  That spills over to
>> dealing with non tribal members.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giver
>>
>>
>

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