What is this “CD” of which you speak? Is that some sort of physical media? That you would actually pay for? And not stream from the cloud?
I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman. Track a spinning disc with a laser while running or exercising. Yeah, that’ll work great. I’m hearing of a new technology called VINYL that is all the rage with the kids, maybe I need to check that out. Anyway, I think this is the last CD I bought: https://www.amazon.com/KIN-KT-Tunstall/dp/B01J3SK1O4 Like most albums, 3-4 good tracks. So I do see the logic in buying individual songs for like $1 each. Meanwhile, I’m picturing Chuck listening to Kenny Chesney singing “She Thinks My Tractor’s Sexy”. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G Or even worse we'll have to listen to our cd collection from yesteryear. What would that look like in the Hohhof household? :-) Hal On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I got a call today from a customer who had bought a gizmo to extend his WiFi to his yard so he could listen to music while mowing the lawn. Remember when we could listen to music without the Internet? Transistor radio. Walkman. iPod. Or just load a bunch of songs on your phone. Nope. Everything today needs the Internet and an app. I assume if “the cloud” ever goes down, people will fall to the ground and flop around like fish. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:47 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G It would be interesting to know how many others on that tower were using data etc. Not bad though for a hand held device with nlos. What are your ping times? From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G Here's my internet speed: I have 2 choices for internet today - AT&T 5Mbps/.5Mbps adsl (with random 30s outages) OR LTE modem. You can guess which one I use. I'm not sure how much data I use. It says month to date is almost 200GB. I think I'm the only one on the tower. I pay $150/mo for "unlimited" and one day I'll be given the boot I suppose since I doubt this is an officially sanctioned plan. This is not sustainable for a national operator using licensed bands as a business model. I kinda doubt I'll ever see 5G from a large carrier at my house. It just doesn't make sense. My next round of fast internet has to come from one of you guys. Viva el/la WISP! ;-) On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:19 AM Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: Ken, Yes the customer might think that its qgig for them… but still the experience would be far better that they have now… worst case scenario 50megs for them? As carries add capacity (via this technologies and more spectrum) , they will continue to raise the cap bar. We might see in the future a cap high enough that a big segment of the market will ditch fixed broadband and just have mobile. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G Manufacturer/carrier says: we demonstrated a basestation with gigabit aggregate capacity Customer hears: gigabit speed, all for me Also articles about watching 8K 3D TV on your phone, ignoring $10 per GB data usage charges. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G Not really https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate <https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate&utm_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113> &utm_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113 From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a different animal entirely. On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: Check this out http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to the point where it lost the original meaning. On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow what 5G really menas and its deceptive. Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly… From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell companies' version of 5G... On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G? From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G Gino, the GPS software does work. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill . Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite spending a lot of money on them: WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”. The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds. Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed. As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G Ouch… From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] 5G Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa. But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too. Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make their Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing. Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 -- -- Harold Bledsoe
