LOL yes!

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:50 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> What is this “CD” of which you speak?  Is that some sort of physical
> media?  That you would actually pay for?  And not stream from the cloud?
>
>
>
> I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman.  Track a spinning
> disc with a laser while running or exercising.  Yeah, that’ll work great.
>
>
>
> I’m hearing of a new technology called VINYL that is all the rage with the
> kids, maybe I need to check that out.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I think this is the last CD I bought:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/KIN-KT-Tunstall/dp/B01J3SK1O4
>
> Like most albums, 3-4 good tracks.  So I do see the logic in buying
> individual songs for like $1 each.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, I’m picturing Chuck listening to Kenny Chesney singing “She
> Thinks My Tractor’s Sexy”.
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:43 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Or even worse we'll have to listen to our cd collection from yesteryear.
> What would that look like in the Hohhof household? :-)
>
>
>
> Hal
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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> I got a call today from a customer who had bought a gizmo to extend his
> WiFi to his yard so he could listen to music while mowing the lawn.
>
>
>
> Remember when we could listen to music without the Internet?  Transistor
> radio.  Walkman.  iPod.  Or just load a bunch of songs on your phone.
> Nope.  Everything today needs the Internet and an app.  I assume if “the
> cloud” ever goes down, people will fall to the ground and flop around like
> fish.
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:47 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> It would be interesting to know how many others on that tower were using
> data etc.  Not bad though for a hand held device with nlos.  What are your
> ping times?
>
>
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Here's my internet speed:
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> [image: speed.png]
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> I have 2 choices for internet today - AT&T 5Mbps/.5Mbps adsl (with random
> 30s outages) OR LTE modem.  You can guess which one I use.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure how much data I use.  It says month to date is almost 200GB.
>
>
>
> I think I'm the only one on the tower.  I pay $150/mo for "unlimited" and
> one day I'll be given the boot I suppose since I doubt this is an
> officially sanctioned plan.
>
>
>
> This is not sustainable for a national operator using licensed bands as a
> business model.  I kinda doubt I'll ever see 5G from a large carrier at my
> house.  It just doesn't make sense.  My next round of fast internet has to
> come from one of you guys.
>
>
>
> Viva el/la WISP!  ;-)
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:19 AM Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
>
>
> Yes the customer might think that its qgig for them… but still the
> experience would be far better that they have now… worst case scenario
> 50megs for them?
>
>
>
> As carries add capacity (via this technologies and more spectrum) , they
> will continue to raise the cap bar.  We might see in the future a cap high
> enough that a big segment of the market will ditch fixed broadband and just
> have mobile.
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> >
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM
>
>
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> Manufacturer/carrier says:  we demonstrated a basestation with gigabit
> aggregate capacity
>
>
>
> Customer hears:  gigabit speed, all for me
>
>
>
> Also articles about watching 8K 3D TV on your phone, ignoring $10 per GB
> data usage charges.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Not really
>
>
>
>
> https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate&utm_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113
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>
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> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM
>
>
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in
> all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a
> different animal entirely.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Check this out
>
>
> http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D
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> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
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> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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> [image: image003.png]
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> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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> On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
> 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the
> ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to
> the point where it lost the original meaning.
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow
> what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>
>
>
> Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should
> have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell
> companies' version of 5G...
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
> r...@triadwireless.net>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Gino, the GPS software does work.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *David Milholen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have
> seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their
> fill .
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>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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> [image: image003.png]
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> [image: image003.png]
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> On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>
>
>
> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>
>
>
> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
> from your house in the country.
>
>
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Ouch…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
> s...@genias.net>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>
> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>
>
>
> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
> make their
>
> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>
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> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
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> Harold Bledsoe
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