LOL yes! On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:50 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> What is this “CD” of which you speak? Is that some sort of physical > media? That you would actually pay for? And not stream from the cloud? > > > > I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman. Track a spinning > disc with a laser while running or exercising. Yeah, that’ll work great. > > > > I’m hearing of a new technology called VINYL that is all the rage with the > kids, maybe I need to check that out. > > > > Anyway, I think this is the last CD I bought: > > https://www.amazon.com/KIN-KT-Tunstall/dp/B01J3SK1O4 > > Like most albums, 3-4 good tracks. So I do see the logic in buying > individual songs for like $1 each. > > > > Meanwhile, I’m picturing Chuck listening to Kenny Chesney singing “She > Thinks My Tractor’s Sexy”. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:43 PM > > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > Or even worse we'll have to listen to our cd collection from yesteryear. > What would that look like in the Hohhof household? :-) > > > > Hal > > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > I got a call today from a customer who had bought a gizmo to extend his > WiFi to his yard so he could listen to music while mowing the lawn. > > > > Remember when we could listen to music without the Internet? Transistor > radio. Walkman. iPod. Or just load a bunch of songs on your phone. > Nope. Everything today needs the Internet and an app. I assume if “the > cloud” ever goes down, people will fall to the ground and flop around like > fish. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:47 PM > > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > It would be interesting to know how many others on that tower were using > data etc. Not bad though for a hand held device with nlos. What are your > ping times? > > > > *From:* Harold Bledsoe > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > Here's my internet speed: > > > > [image: speed.png] > > > > I have 2 choices for internet today - AT&T 5Mbps/.5Mbps adsl (with random > 30s outages) OR LTE modem. You can guess which one I use. > > > > I'm not sure how much data I use. It says month to date is almost 200GB. > > > > I think I'm the only one on the tower. I pay $150/mo for "unlimited" and > one day I'll be given the boot I suppose since I doubt this is an > officially sanctioned plan. > > > > This is not sustainable for a national operator using licensed bands as a > business model. I kinda doubt I'll ever see 5G from a large carrier at my > house. It just doesn't make sense. My next round of fast internet has to > come from one of you guys. > > > > Viva el/la WISP! ;-) > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:19 AM Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > > Ken, > > > > Yes the customer might think that its qgig for them… but still the > experience would be far better that they have now… worst case scenario > 50megs for them? > > > > As carries add capacity (via this technologies and more spectrum) , they > will continue to raise the cap bar. We might see in the future a cap high > enough that a big segment of the market will ditch fixed broadband and just > have mobile. > > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > > > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM > > > *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > Manufacturer/carrier says: we demonstrated a basestation with gigabit > aggregate capacity > > > > Customer hears: gigabit speed, all for me > > > > Also articles about watching 8K 3D TV on your phone, ignoring $10 per GB > data usage charges. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Gino Villarini > > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:04 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > Not really > > > > > https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate&utm_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113 > > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM > > > *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in > all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a > different animal entirely. > > > > On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Check this out > > > http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D > > > > > > *Gino Villarini* > > President > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > [image: image003.png] > > > > *Gino Villarini* > > President > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] > > On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: > > 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the > ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to > the point where it lost the original meaning. > > On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > > I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow > what 5G really menas and its deceptive. > > > > Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly… > > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM > *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should > have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell > companies' version of 5G... > > On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > > Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G? > > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway < > r...@triadwireless.net> > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM > *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > Gino, the GPS software does work. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *David Milholen > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have > seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their > fill . > > > > > > > > *Gino Villarini* > > President > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > > > > > *Gino Villarini* > > President > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > [image: image003.png] > > [image: image003.png] > > On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, > despite spending a lot of money on them: > > > > WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server > > > > And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining > “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”. The latest I saw is Qualcomm > wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download > speeds. Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data > plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end > user speed. As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed > spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles > from your house in the country. > > > > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/ > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Gino Villarini > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G > > > > Ouch… > > > > > > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt < > s...@genias.net> > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM > *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G > > > > Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa. > > But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too. > > > > Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to > make their > > Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing. > > > > > > > > *Gino Villarini* > > President > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > [image: image004.png] > > > > -- > > [image: image005.jpg] > > -- > > Harold Bledsoe > -- Harold Bledsoe