Marines want to be called Marines. They earned that right.

Soldiers want to be called Soldiers. They also earned that right.

I'm no paint huffing crayon-eater! ;)

On Mar 1, 2017 9:40 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Phew, lots of deleting.  Have we passed this turd finally?
>
> Deep cleansing breath, in through the nose, slow out through pursed lips.
> Repeat, repeat, ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
> I have wonder why Marines always want to be called Warriors when all the
> other soldiers and sailors are OK with their titles?  My son in law is a
> Marine.  He put on a uniform and shot bullets at enemies, same as the army
> guys.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
> There is a very large group of veterans who are fucking pissed that our
> commander in chief said that we don't fight to win. Mattis is also pissed
> his new boss called him a soldier. I love my retarted marine brothers and
> sisters, and we take offense whenever some civvy doesn't know the
> difference.
>
> That aside, with this raid being as botched as it was there were some
> critical failures in both intelligence and decision making at the highest
> level. Those units don't act unless they have very very very recent
> (sometimes to the minute) info unless told otherwise. Several things went
> wrong, no doubt, and some of that squarely falls on Trump. I don't care if
> he's your guy or if he's not, I don't give a damn. The go call in this
> instance was the wrong one.
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I never said all, I said all I know, limited to probably around fifty,
>> only one is lt colonel in airforce reserves so no high ranking, and only
>> two special forces limited to Rangers, the rest all being regular
>> personnel, so not a great representation of the WHOLE military, but given
>> the mindset amongst them I'd venture a guess without much apprehension that
>> they are a pretty good representation of the military overall.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You think all military active and veterans like Trump?  Wow....Trump was
>> right about one thing.. he could kill someone in Times Square, and you'd
>> say it okay....I don't get it ...My critical mind is trying to understand
>> this blind faith in him... Almost like Jim Jones...Damn....
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 5:49 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can't go with that when it came to our capabilities and mission
>>> objectives the last guy was mouth in chief. This admin didn't want any
>>> military plans made public ever.
>>> I'd like to think at the end of the day this was just a mission that
>>> turned shitshow fast on its own. It is an insult to call it poor planning
>>> considering that's saying the mission training over the last 3 months
>>> wasn't taken seriously by the SEAL team.
>>> I personally wouldn't be at all suprised if the community organizer in
>>> chief had his minions leak the details. Or one of his antifa terrorist
>>> friends still embedded in the administration did so. All to do what was
>>> done, discredit the current administration. Every currently serving and
>>> veteran military personnel I know, with hehe exception of Josh here,
>>> supports trump and understands what went down in this mission was what it
>>> was and wants the same as I do from the people responsible if there was a
>>> leak.
>>> Even their lost  brother in arms brother is a seal and hasn't said
>>> anything negative (though that may be a limitation of his status)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017 6:35 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
>>>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
>>>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
>>>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who benefits from the leak?
>>>>
>>>>    1. ISIS
>>>>    2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>>>>
>>>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>>>>
>>>> So what does that leave us with?
>>>>
>>>> Apply Occam's razor.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>>>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>>>
>>>> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it
>>>> is being investigated
>>>>
>>>> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and
>>>> waited til tonights address with a prepared speech
>>>>
>>>> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
>>>> bad guys.
>>>> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>>>>
>>>> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?
>>>> Or Hillary?
>>>>
>>>> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>>>>
>>>> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
>>>> himself irrespective of his words.
>>>> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
>>>> this.  He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the
>>>> opposite.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
>>>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>>>
>>>> https://news.google.com/news/ amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%
>>>> 2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy% 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-
>>>> appears-to-place-blame-on- generals-for-seal-killed-in-
>>>> yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526
>>>> <https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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