Like if AFMUG becomes a dissident forum... At least in perception of someone with the keys to the jail...

On 3/7/17 7:30 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:
I knew about windows since like 98 because I knew a Microsoft employee who
told me about what they could do.  Skype didn't surprise me either.  Quite
frankly I don't care because I don't have anything to hide.

This "I don't have anything to hide" is as long as your country behaves fair to 
you.
For 95% of the world this is not the case. And even in US you might run into 
problems communicating with the wrong people or sharing a bus with them. 
Remember there are/were some people in Guantanamo which never seen a judge. 
Some are free after years without a hearing. I guess they have another view.

Look at this case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Kurnaz
He met some filter criteria and had no chance.

I have nothing to hide but I have no good feeling seeing what possibilities are 
in the hands of people I dont know and I am not sure about their motivation. 
May be arresting someone helps their career. So they lower the filter and grab 
someone who is just at the wrong time and place as Kurnaz.




I'm torn about this because this pisses me off.. but then again they need to be
able to spy on other countries to protect us.  So this is a bittersweet day.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 9:56:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

Now I can see this being problem for Miktroik or for that matter Edgerouters or
any type of Linux based routers. I wonder what MK is going do about this to
harden the software?

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve <li...@wavedirect.org>
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Date: 03/07/17 09:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/UsersGuide.pdf

^^User guide how to hack the Mikrotik

Hopefully they are reading this and will get patching ASAP.

Well I'm not shocked at all the rest.  We know they have Cisco,
Solaris, Juniper

I'm not shocked at all the rest just that they heavily focused so much
on Mikrotik. But your point about being Eastern European does make sense.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 9:48:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

I don't understand. MikroTik is used frequently in the EU and
developing world, which makes it a great target.

Why are you so shocked?

On Mar 7, 2017 8:45 AM, "Steve" <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

Wow.. They actually have something for the Mikrotik too. All the
rest of it does not shock me at all. We know you can hack cars,
Iphones and Android devices ...  But the Mikrotik really?

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/





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