Ah.. Now I get it..

So, the constants are the resistor and the Power used.

source E^2/P=R Load

48^2/6=384 Ohms

So, if the load power remains the same throughout any source voltage changes then the Load resistance will change.

Bill, is on the same rail I am there has to be a dynamic whether it be loss in the loop or loss in the load.

In dc I would believe that the load resistance has to change as copper wire may change in extreme conditions like lots of heat or cold.



On 3/9/2017 8:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
The voltage of the power supply is constant.  48 volts.
The resistor is a fixed and constant 100 ohms.
The load is a fixed and constant 6 watts load.
But the current of the load will change depending on the voltage applied to the load. And any change in current causes a change of voltage applied to the load due to a change of voltage dropped across the resistor. The VDSL2 ethernet range extender uses 6 watts. It can be powered from 10 to 48 volts. This is a real world application, not just an academic exercise to tease everyone. I really thought I would have the solution knocked out in 3 minutes. Took about an hour.
*From:* David Milholen
*Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2017 7:29 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ohms law

The idea would be to remove the power source entirely and find the thevenin resistance.

So is the resistance changing or is the voltage?

On 3/9/2017 7:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
But what is the Thevenin equivalent of a constant POWER component?
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Read my reply to Bill, there is feedback.� The voltage drop of the resistor changes the current drawn by the load which changes the voltage drop of the resistor and so on.�
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*From:* David Milholen
*Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2017 6:24 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ohms law
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This is straight out of my Dc circuit analysis book from college.

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/direct-current/chpt-10/thevenins-theorem/

I kinda thought my voltage was a bit off but the 100ohm is not a fixed value.

I just used Watts/volts to get my current. W/V=I

I then used the current to get the voltage drop across the loop

I*R=V drop

Its been a while for the thevenins therom but if i do a little study I think I could get it.

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On 3/9/2017 5:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
But what is the formula?
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*From:* Dave
*Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2017 4:20 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ohms law
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Current =.125A at load
Voltage=35.5 at load

If my current is correct then I should be on point.
Otherwise I would use Thevenins Therom to get closer.


On 03/09/2017 05:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
The questions are:
What is the current and voltage on the load.�
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*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2017 4:05 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Ohms law
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Had a fun afternoon.�
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Solve this.... and give the general formula...
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48 volt power supply
100 ohm wire resistance to the load.
6 watt load.
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Took me some time.� Not trivial.�

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