It will be a once size fits POE, as in the positive wires are 1-2 4-5.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 9:20 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

Please make it one size fits all.  Like the gigE HV.  I'm not stocking 3 
products for 1 job.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Peddling my bike as fast as I can go.  I think it will be a no case product.  
Two shielded RJ45s, PCB.  8 LEDS.  4 on one side of the fuses, 4 on the other 
so you can see if any of the fuses have blown.  Bare PCB design.  Perhaps 
painted with the LEDS showing through the paint.  I think I can fit it all in a 
2 inch PCB.  Short shielded CAT5 jumper.  

  From: Mitch Koep 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:14 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

  Look forward to getting some when your

  ready

  Mitch




  On 03/25/2017 09:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    That is exactly what it is.  Universal for all POE products.  

    From: Faisal Imtiaz 
    Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:16 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    >>  The external in line fuse product is ready for prototyping.  

    Let us know how this goes, if the test are successful, I would suggest 
making an 'external in-line fuse', which would make for a quick retrofit for 
existing modules out there .


    Thanks.


    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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      From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected] 

      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:38:12 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

      I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top or bottom.  
If it is POE and powered by a passive source you run a risk of smoking it with 
any surge suppressor. 

      I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put inline with 
Netonix.  The second is adding fusing to my surge protectors if I can fit it 
in.  The external in line fuse product is ready for prototyping. 

      From: David Coudron
      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

      We are also very interested in this topic.   We will be building out 10 
new towers in the next few months, and will be making the change to Netonix 
switches (we had previously used a different type of switch).  I the past we 
had put Transtector surge protectors on the tower top and in the cabinet on the 
ground.   From what you are saying in thread, we should not plan on surge 
protectors in the cabinet, but what is the recommended change for the tower 
top, if any?   



      Thanks,  





      David Coudron

      [email protected] |  Mobile: 612-991-7474



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      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix



      If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, you 
run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer.  It will not protect 
itself against shorts.



      From: Josh Baird 

      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM

      To: [email protected] 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix



      What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge protectors 
before connecting to Netonix.


      On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, 
irrespective of manufacturer.  



        From: [email protected] 

        Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM

        To: [email protected] 

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix



        So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that are 
connected to Netonix?



        On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

          I am going to fix this little problem...



          Netonix will fix your port for something like $25



          From: Bill Prince 

          Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM

          To: [email protected] 

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix



          Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium surge 
suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We were swapping from 
something else that had been on the cable, and completely forgot that it was 
going through that surge suppressor. Hard lesson learned.

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            OK,  had an exchange with Netonix today.  It is just as Matt Hoppes 
said.  You short out their POE and it will blow the Ethernet transformer.  



            I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that could detect 
and shut down in an over current situation.  They do have poly fuses which are 
slow to react and may protect it from a very brief short, but longer shorts 
will indeed harm the port feeding the transformer.  



            So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that on passive POE a 
plain surge suppressor should not be used.  I am working some “non plain” surge 
suppressors now.... ;-)  Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to 
Matt for forcing me to learn something new.  It was painful, but I can do 
painful things when I have to.  



            From: Chuck McCown 

            Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM

            To: [email protected] 

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix



            tnx



            From: Josh Luthman 

            Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM

            To: [email protected] 

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix



            chris.sisler 

            ( A )

            netlinx.net





            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373



            On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix?











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