Go look at the prices they charge for these. They are very reasonable. We've had hit and miss luck with Toughswitches. I'm thankful we have a 'real' switch to use now...
Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Mitch Koep <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would agree.... so why do we pay to fix or to add > > additional equipment to modify? > > I guess I will hold off from anymore Netonix. > > > Mitch > >> On 03/25/2017 09:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> I would say yes. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Mitch Koep" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:23:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> Is this a design error that Netonix needs to correct? >> >> >> > What is the lesser of two problems. Leaving a lot of expensive stuff >> > unprotected or risk replacing a Netonix switch? >> > >> > Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top or >> >> bottom. If it is POE and powered by a passive source you run a risk >> >> of smoking it with any surge suppressor. >> >> I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put inline >> >> with Netonix. The second is adding fusing to my surge protectors if >> >> I can fit it in. The external in line fuse product is ready for >> >> prototyping. >> >> *From:* David Coudron >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> >> >> We are also very interested in this topic. We will be building out >> >> 10 new towers in the next few months, and will be making the change >> >> to Netonix switches (we had previously used a different type of >> >> switch). I the past we had put Transtector surge protectors on the >> >> tower top and in the cabinet on the ground. From what you are saying >> >> in thread, we should not plan on surge protectors in the cabinet, but >> >> what is the recommended change for the tower top, if any? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> *David Coudron* >> >> >> >> [email protected]|*Mobile: *612-991-7474 >> >> >> >> *Advantenon, Inc. >> >> *cid:[email protected]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://blog.advantenon.com/> >> >> >> >> [email protected]|3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN >> >> 55447|www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/>|*Phone:*800-704-4720|*Local: >> >> >> >> *612-454-1545 >> >> >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> >> >> If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, >> >> you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer. It will not >> >> protect itself against shorts. >> >> >> >> *From:*Josh Baird >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> >> >> What exactly is the reason? We always run through your surge >> >> protectors before connecting to Netonix. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, >> >> irrespective of manufacturer. >> >> >> >> *From:*[email protected] >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> >> >> So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that >> >> are connected to Netonix? >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am going to fix this little problem... >> >> >> >> Netonix will fix your port for something like $25 >> >> >> >> *From:*Bill Prince >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM >> >> >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> >> >> Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium >> >> surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We >> >> were swapping from something else that had been on the cable, >> >> and completely forgot that it was going through that surge >> >> suppressor. Hard lesson learned. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, had an exchange with Netonix today. It is just as >> >> Matt Hoppes said. You short out their POE and it will blow >> >> the Ethernet transformer. >> >> >> >> I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that >> >> could detect and shut down in an over current situation. >> >> They do have poly fuses which are slow to react and may >> >> protect it from a very brief short, but longer >> >> shorts will >> >> indeed harm the port feeding the transformer. >> >> >> >> So, Netonix is not active POE. I would say that on >> >> passive POE a plain surge suppressor should not be used. >> >> I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors now.... >> >> ;-) Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to >> >> Matt for forcing me to learn something new. It was >> >> painful, but I can do painful things when I have to. >> >> >> >> *From:*Chuck McCown >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix >> >> >> >> tnx >> >> >> >> *From:*Josh Luthman >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix >> >> >> >> chris.sisler >> >> >> >> ( A ) >> >> >> >> netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340> >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343> >> >> 1100 Wayne St >> >> Suite 1337 >> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix? >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature> >> >> Version: 2016.0.8007 / Virus Database: 4769/14180 - Release Date: >> >> 03/24/17 >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Mitch Koep >> >> A Better Wireless >> 218-851-8689 cell > > -- > Mitch Koep > > A Better Wireless > 218-851-8689 cell
