AE requires a lot more electronics and optics. And fiber. And battery
backup. Etc.

On Mar 27, 2017 4:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON.  If you had 16
> or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON.
> But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON.  If you do AE like Sterling
> I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix PON.
>
> With PON you still have to have a drop to each home.  The cost of  the
> cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself.
> So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you place
> the switch and SFPs.  Personally, I would do it Sterling style on new
> greenfield.  The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we are a
> regulated common carrier with provider of last resort obligations.  I have
> to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this.
>
> Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc.
> Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to
> tackle.
>
> It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber
> count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper enclosures.
>  Less junk at the head end too.  I haven't gotten that far yet, but I
> was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON.  You're saying maybe not?
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> I would be worried that it will go the way of some of  their other ideas.
>> Cheap... you get what you pay for.
>>
>> FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be around in
>> the years to come.
>> Not an area where you want to scrimp.  If you want to scrimp go active
>> ethernet.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>>
>> Well....I have to build with what's available today.  If I delay to wait
>> for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting.
>>
>> Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that
>> other vendors don't.  I suppose it will be cost competitive, but that's
>> less important to me than having it just work.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>>
>> With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait
>>>
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I asked the Alphion sales rep about this.  He says the optics are
>>>> coded, yes.  As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from another
>>>> he said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested across
>>>> vendors so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or doesn't work at all
>>>> is going to be a matter of chance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------ Original Message ------
>>>>  From: fiber...@mail.com
>>>>  To: af@afmug.com
>>>>  Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>>>>
>>>>  No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Jared
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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