I wasn't gonna say anything.
I did read the article, and the wikileaks email it cites. The problem
is not that the source is Julian Assange, it's that it's Julian
Assange's opinion. The cited email doesn't say Google is feeding data
to Hillary. Jared Coen (Google Exec) is informing Hillary (via her
staff) about data in Syria that he's putting on a public map. During
the date on the email, Clinton was Secretary of State. The cited email
does not say anything about the relationship: it doesn't say whether
Jared Coen was doing a favor for Clinton or whether Google was working
as a contractor for the State Department.
The rest of the claims are inferred either by Assange or by the Author.
.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 3/31/2017 4:46:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
WikiLeaks releases only what they feel will help their agenda, which
also happens to be Putin's agenda. I don't watch Rachel Maddow, so I
can't speak to anything she does. The New York Times has significantly
more journalistic integrity than Brietbart.
On Friday, March 31, 2017, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
So Wikieleaks hasn’t published any fake data ever, but because
Brietbart writes about it, that means it’s fake data. But if the New
York Times or Rachel Maddow said the same thing, you would accept that
as truth. And you don’t see a problem with that?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 12:40 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
It's not evidence if it is made up or slanted to serve an agenda.
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:
Yea, I believe WickieLeaks but nice try. It’s amazing that you care
more about the source of the writing than the evidence the brought
forth. This information, although sparse, is accurate. I’m sure that
you don’t believe Google employees were working in the administration
and had nothing to do with the Net Neutrality Act or the 20 pages
redacted from that act that nobody saw.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:17 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
+Graham's number.
They're about as dependable and un-biased as Fox "News".
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
wrote:
You believe Breitbart?!?!?
What planet you live on?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/30/2017 7:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/
<http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/>
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
Wha?
citation?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 3/30/2017 9:47:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when
supporting this bill. They know Google has been supplying and
manipulating data and search engines for the Democrats for years.
Hell, they started a company specifically to do just that. I think
the Republicans are looking at having access to that data as being
important.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social
network companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do
they choose not to use the only ISP in their market?
Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:(510)%20868-1614>
Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:(510)%20207-0000>
pkr...@unwiredltd.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
I heard a comment today that I had not thought about. Apparently
Google has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have
the same rights. Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this
information never crossed their minds.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
While the FCC’s proposed “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of
Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services” rule might not have
been perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs
and WISPS, I think the basic concept was sound. I created a simple
non-legally binding pledge that small ISPs and WISPS can sign up
that I feel will demonstrate one of the clear differentiators
between us and larger ISPs who seek to commodify every aspect of
their customer’s usage.
Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/
I’m open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this,
but to try to get some visibility for our industry and its unique
respect for the end user.
Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:(510)%20868-1614>
Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:(510)%20207-0000>
pkr...@unwiredltd.com
