I'm always in favor of letting the big guys hang themselves.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:48:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge I'd agree with this. Anything greedy that the big guys do (even from only a perception standpoint) is good for us. It's a great marketing tool. So long as they don't figure a way to force anything on all of us. On Friday, March 31, 2017, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: Somebody posted the link to the WISPA filing on this in the other thread here... there is more going on here than the stuff about selling information that's stuck all over the news. Maybe it is a big corporate handout, in some ways, but as far as I can tell, it's good for the likes of us in every way. We've already had several customers worried that we're going to sell there information, and being able to tell them that we have no intention of ever doing so is a good selling point to those people... sure, the main reason that we aren't going to sell that info may be because we don't have it, and we're too small for anybody to want it even if we did, but that's beside the point. As far as I know, it hadn't ever actually taken effect anyway, so despite what you'd think from what's on the news, nothing is actually changing from how it always has been. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: <blockquote> This is a big corporate handout, no need to get conspiracy theories involved. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: <blockquote> One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting this bill. They know Google has been supplying and manipulating data and search engines for the Democrats for years. Hell, they started a company specifically to do just that. I think the Republicans are looking at having access to that data as being important. Rory From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social network companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not to use the only ISP in their market? Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-0000 pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge I heard a comment today that I had not thought about. Apparently Google has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same rights. Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never crossed their minds. Rory From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge While the FCC’s proposed “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services” rule might not have been perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I think the basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding pledge that small ISPs and WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate one of the clear differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to commodify every aspect of their customer’s usage. Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/ I’m open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this, but to try to get some visibility for our industry and its unique respect for the end user. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-0000 pkr...@unwiredltd.com </blockquote> </blockquote>
