I'd agree with this. Anything greedy that the big guys do (even from only a
perception standpoint) is good for us. It's a great marketing tool. So long
as they don't figure a way to force anything on all of us.

On Friday, March 31, 2017, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Somebody posted the link to the WISPA filing on this in the other thread
> here... there is more going on here than the stuff about selling
> information that's stuck all over the news.
> Maybe it is a big corporate handout, in some ways, but as far as I can
> tell, it's good for the likes of us in every way. We've already had several
> customers worried that we're going to sell there information, and being
> able to tell them that we have no intention of ever doing so is a good
> selling point to those people... sure, the main reason that we aren't going
> to sell that info may be because we don't have it, and we're too small for
> anybody to want it even if we did, but that's beside the point.
>
> As far as I know, it hadn't ever actually taken effect anyway, so despite
> what you'd think from what's on the news, nothing is actually changing from
> how it always has been.
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>> wrote:
>
>> This is a big corporate handout, no need to get conspiracy theories
>> involved.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net');>> wrote:
>>
>>> One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting
>>> this bill.  They know Google has been supplying and manipulating data and
>>> search engines for the Democrats for years.  Hell, they started a company
>>> specifically to do just that.  I think the Republicans are looking at
>>> having access to that data as being important.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Peter
>>> Kranz
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social network
>>> companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not
>>> to use the only ISP in their market?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614>
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <(510)%20207-0000>
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com');>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Rory
>>> Conaway
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I heard a comment today that I had not thought about.  Apparently Google
>>> has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same
>>> rights.  Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never
>>> crossed their minds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Peter
>>> Kranz
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While the FCC’s proposed “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of
>>> Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services” rule might not have been
>>> perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I
>>> think the basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding
>>> pledge that small ISPs and WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate
>>> one of the clear differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to
>>> commodify every aspect of their customer’s usage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this, but to
>>> try to get some visibility for our industry and its unique respect for the
>>> end user.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614>
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <(510)%20207-0000>
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com');>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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