A mux is simply multiplexing the signals, bandwidth, etc. Sending some information to you on this and our team can provide more information if you're interested. From: Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig <!--#yiv3471116210 _filtered #yiv3471116210 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3471116210 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3471116210 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3471116210 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv3471116210 #yiv3471116210 p.yiv3471116210MsoNormal, #yiv3471116210 li.yiv3471116210MsoNormal, #yiv3471116210 div.yiv3471116210MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv3471116210 a:link, #yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3471116210 a:visited, #yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3471116210 p.yiv3471116210msonormal0, #yiv3471116210 li.yiv3471116210msonormal0, #yiv3471116210 div.yiv3471116210msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210apple-style-span {}#yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210apple-converted-space {}#yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210EmailStyle21 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210EmailStyle22 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv3471116210 span.yiv3471116210EmailStyle24 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv3471116210 .yiv3471116210MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv3471116210 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv3471116210 div.yiv3471116210WordSection1 {}-->Does using a mux require a “better” optical budget? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Not really. A mux is a mux. Just pay attention to insertion loss numbers to make sure you still have the optical budget you need.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From:"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:29:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Is running an 8 channel mux any more reliable than a 40 channel mux on a link of that distance? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Cheaper to use a mux now than to figure out how to transition 10G of traffic elsewhere later when you need to take the link down to put a mux in? :-p ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From:"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:20:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig I didn’t think of that but yes that makes sense From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Not that you wont need them, but maybe someone else would and you can sell a channel to them? On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: Wow, I can’t imagine needing that many channels of 10G anytime in the near future. But, I guess ya never know From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig They do have smaller ones, but the cost of the mux isn't that much. Our 18 channel ones are about $1500 for the pair, IIRC. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:16:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig This looks like it supports 40 channels, I really just need one (for now), but if that is part of the HW config needed, 8 channel would be more than sufficient. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Use this tool.... to help you understand and design LH fiber solutions. http://www.fs.com/support/dwdm-edfa-amplifier-for-long-haul-applications-100 Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:45:54 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig What equipment can we use (cost efficient) to light up 80 miles of dark fiber at 10gbit? Paul, PDMNet