sorry... meant to say the 'math' not 'match' dang... fast finger freddy !
Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 7:41:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig > I hate to say this.... .the match on mux insertion loss does not add up in > this > manner... > (I think you are thinking of GPON Muxes... not the same as CWDM or DWDM) > Always best to Check the MFG Specs.... > (I have 8 channel CWDM muxes which have a low insertion loss (less than 2db on > each lambda ! ) > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 7:05:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> Passive optical muxing is just a cascade of splitters with the 3dB per >> split. So >> 8:1 passive mux is 2*2*2 so 9 dB theoretically, 11 or so in real life. >> From: Paul McCall >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:31 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> Does using a mux require a “better” optical budget? >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:31 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> Not really. A mux is a mux. Just pay attention to insertion loss numbers to >> make >> sure you still have the optical budget you need. >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> The Brothers WISP >> From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:29:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> Is running an 8 channel mux any more reliable than a 40 channel mux on a >> link of >> that distance? >> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:22 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> Cheaper to use a mux now than to figure out how to transition 10G of traffic >> elsewhere later when you need to take the link down to put a mux in? :-p >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> The Brothers WISP >> From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:20:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> I didn’t think of that but yes that makes sense >> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:19 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >> Not that you wont need them, but maybe someone else would and you can sell a >> channel to them? >>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Paul McCall < pa...@pdmnet.net > wrote: >>> Wow, I can’t imagine needing that many channels of 10G anytime in the near >>> future. But, I guess ya never know >>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:26 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >>> They do have smaller ones, but the cost of the mux isn't that much. Our 18 >>> channel ones are about $1500 for the pair, IIRC. >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> The Brothers WISP >>> From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:16:21 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >>> This looks like it supports 40 channels, I really just need one (for now), >>> but >>> if that is part of the HW config needed, 8 channel would be more than >>> sufficient. >>> Paul >>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz >>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:35 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >>> Use this tool.... to help you understand and design LH fiber solutions. >>> http://www.fs.com/support/dwdm-edfa-amplifier-for-long-haul-applications-100 >>> Regards. >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:45:54 AM >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig >>>> What equipment can we use (cost efficient) to light up 80 miles of dark >>>> fiber at >>>> 10gbit? >>>> Paul, PDMNet
