Insulin response is tied to carbohydrates, sure, but insulin can also spike via foods that have no carbohydrates. You can have an insulin spike via high cortisol levels converting proteins to glucose if your body has not had a few weeks to adapt to a state of ketosis.
Stevia does not cause either insulin spike. - Josh On Apr 22, 2017 2:10 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > You're missing the point about carbohydrates. If it has carbohydrates, it > will convert to sugar, which will trigger an insulin response. > > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070820175426.htm > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 4/22/2017 11:52 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > You're missing the point. Stevia doesn't trigger an insulin response. > > - Josh > > On Apr 22, 2017 12:44 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> and because they break down into sugars, they have calories, and they >> trigger an insulin response on which the insulin can act. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 4/22/2017 10:42 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> This is incorrect. Carbohydrates by definition break down into sugars. >> There are numerous studies on this. >> >> - Josh >> >> On Apr 22, 2017 12:39 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But does it have calories or not? >>> >>> The issue I see is things that provide "sweetness" but have no calories. >>> They can (and do) trigger an insulin response, but nothing for the insulin >>> to act on. Hence, they tilt toward increasing insulin resistance (the main >>> problem in type 2 diabetes). >>> >>> Type 2 diabetes was practically non-existent prior to the last few >>> decades, which coincides with the proliferation of artificial sweeteners in >>> all things "food". >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 4/22/2017 10:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>> >>> In all fairness, stevia isn't artificial at all, it's made from a >>> plant's root. >>> >>> On Saturday, April 22, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Don't know if this will come through, but it's worth a shot. A summary >>>> of a report on artificial sweeteners & their interaction with >>>> metabolism/immune system. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/22/2017 9:44 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>> >>>> Stevia still has the weird fake sugar taste for me, although I have had >>>> it on some sodas and it wasn't terrible. I just drink the flavored soda >>>> water and iced tea - I don't have much of a sweet tooth though. Oh, and >>>> tequila, I drink plenty of that. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 22, 2017, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't care so much about sucralose it was just part of the >>>>> paragraph. Stevia OTOH is showing a lot of positive effects for health in >>>>> those with a sweet tooth. >>>>> >>>>> - Josh >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 22, 2017 11:06 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sucralose gives me crazy heartburn. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure if I am more worried about A1C or getting mad cow from it. >>>>>> Not sure how life with dementia affects the person having it, I know full >>>>>> well what it does to the rest of the family and I really don’t want to >>>>>> inflict that upon my children. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 22, 2017 10:00 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow >>>>>> >>>>>> Stevia actually doesn't. What you're talking is about an artificial >>>>>> sweetener spiking an insulin response due to it containing carbohydrates. >>>>>> >>>>>> " study performed <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221011> in >>>>>> human volunteers demonstrated that infusions of sucralose in to the >>>>>> stomach >>>>>> had no effect on insulin levels or glucose. In another study >>>>>> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19808921>, drinking a diet soda >>>>>> sweetened with sucralose had no significant effect on insulin levels a (a >>>>>> minor non-significant increase was noted). A study also demonstrated >>>>>> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20303371> that the use of stevia >>>>>> did not increase insulin levels in healthy or obese participants" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Josh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 21, 2017 7:41 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All those artificial sweeteners will kill you and/or give you type 2 >>>>>>> diabetes. Besides; they all taste metallic or something. I can't stand >>>>>>> them. Just give me plain coffee with a dab of cream, or plain spiced >>>>>>> tea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/21/2017 2:51 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia >>>>>>> now.... what the heck am I going to drink all day long? >>>>>>> Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks. Sugar is not a >>>>>>> friend of my A1C either. I want the caffeine in the morning. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no >>>>>>> sugar, and no sucralose beverage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please bring back saccharine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
