The problem with ketogenic diet is the emphasis on protein, so, you're
substituting one macronutrient which raises insulin for another.
Dr. Ron Rosedale, MD, is an endocrinologist who -- like Dr. Gerald Reaven --
has concerns about too much protein in the diets consumed by diabetics and
recommends 50% of your lean body mass should be the max amount of protein to
reduce the impact on insulin. eg If your LBM is 140lbs, then, 70g of protein
per day. He also has concerns about the affects of protein on IGF-1.
"Anti-aging expert Ron Rosedale, M.D., was among the first to warn people about
the dangers of eating too much protein — a stance that has received a fair
share of criticism over the years, although mounting research now offers strong
support for this notion."
http://drrosedale.com/blog/2011/11/21/ron-rosedale-protein-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#axzz4f1A9zTeV
A ketogenic diet higher in fat, lower in protein and lots of vegetables, should
also be more focused on healthier fats...primarily from plants as:
- Saturated fats are highly inflammatory, which is a big issue if you have
insulin resistance/you are Type 2. These also damage the endothelial lining of
the arteries.- SFAs contain concentrated amounts of Arachidonic Acid...the body
does need these, but, in minute amounts.- Saturated fats are also a storehouse
of things like pesticides, hormones (that the animals are given), etc.
So, nuts, avocados, etc., would be a much better choice if doing a keto plan.
From: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow
Look into keto. Trigger ketosis over several months had anecdotal evidence to
reduce or eliminate type 2 diabetes. Until more long term studies are done, it
will stay "anecdotal". I've seen way, way too many success stories tied to this
that aren't related to a company's product, sales pitch, etc.
- Josh
On Apr 22, 2017 1:14 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Well that would be a bonus but I am looking to prevent the extra risk of stroke
and mad cow primarily. My type 2 is not out of control but needs all the help
it can get. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:06 PMTo:
af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow From what I've read it doesn't
sound like stevia triggers the same insulin response as artificial sweeteners
and may actually decrease insulin resistance, although it also sounds like all
the information is not in on what it does do.
On Saturday, April 22, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
But does it have calories or not? The issue I see is things that provide
"sweetness" but have no calories. They can (and do) trigger an insulin
response, but nothing for the insulin to act on. Hence, they tilt toward
increasing insulin resistance (the main problem in type 2 diabetes). Type 2
diabetes was practically non-existent prior to the last few decades, which
coincides with the proliferation of artificial sweeteners in all things "food".
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/22/2017 10:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
In all fairness, stevia isn't artificial at all, it's made from a plant's root.
On Saturday, April 22, 2017, Bill Prince <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
part15...@gmail.com');> wrote:
Don't know if this will come through, but it's worth a shot. A summary of a
report on artificial sweeteners & their interaction with metabolism/immune
system. bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/22/2017 9:44 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Stevia still has the weird fake sugar taste for me, although I have had it on
some sodas and it wasn't terrible. I just drink the flavored soda water and
iced tea - I don't have much of a sweet tooth though. Oh, and tequila, I drink
plenty of that.
On Saturday, April 22, 2017, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
I don't care so much about sucralose it was just part of the paragraph. Stevia
OTOH is showing a lot of positive effects for health in those with a sweet
tooth.
- Josh On Apr 22, 2017 11:06 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Sucralose gives me crazy heartburn. Not sure if I am more worried about
A1C or getting mad cow from it. Not sure how life with dementia affects the
person having it, I know full well what it does to the rest of the family and I
really don’t want to inflict that upon my children. From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 10:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
OT Mad cow Stevia actually doesn't. What you're talking is about an
artificial sweetener spiking an insulin response due to it containing
carbohydrates. " study performed in human volunteers demonstrated that
infusions of sucralose in to the stomach had no effect on insulin levels or
glucose. In another study, drinking a diet soda sweetened with sucralose had no
significant effect on insulin levels a (a minor non-significant increase was
noted). A study also demonstrated that the use of stevia did not increase
insulin levels in healthy or obese participants"
- Josh On Apr 21, 2017 7:41 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
All those artificial sweeteners will kill you and/or give you type 2
diabetes. Besides; they all taste metallic or something. I can't stand them.
Just give me plain coffee with a dab of cream, or plain spiced tea. bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/21/2017 2:51 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia now....
what the heck am I going to drink all day long? Don’t like sugared soda but
like sweet drinks. Sugar is not a friend of my A1C either. I want the
caffeine in the morning. Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial
sweetener, and no sugar, and no sucralose beverage. Please bring back
saccharine.
