With the SM cost being the most expensive, why would you want a more expensive SM only to save you <2k on the AP? With the reality climbing isn't free, we'll say you got a cheap climber to do it for $500. Best case scenario you're saving $1500 on the AP.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Joe Falaschi <[email protected]> wrote: > Your second paragraph, that would be awesome. > > Joe > > > > On May 3, 2017, at 1:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yes, that's frustrating. ePMP only supports 2.5ms @ 20MHz for timing with > FSK. It's obvious that they don't want to hurt 450 sales, especially now > with the ePMP 2k closing the performance gap. I don't want ePMP-450 sync to > co-locate them. I want it to be able to sync nearby ePMP APs at micro-POPs, > where I typically run a 10MHz, with larger sites that have 450 clusters. > We're already running into this. > > I've often wondered if they could make their new 5GHz wideband SoC-based > SMs speak ePMP TDD in addition to the regular 450 OFDM. Imagine being able > to upgrade a site from ePMP to 450i or 450m and never have to touch the > SMs. I often dream of parallel universes where these things are possible. > And then I wake up. :( > > On 5/3/2017 8:27 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > I can't use EPMP for microsites because it won't sync with my 450 > network. Plus I don't want a mixed and matched network. The 450 interface > is better, has a lot of features I am using such as AP downlink utilization > %. Epmp just isn't for me. > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:13 PM, David Milholen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Why not just go EPMP for the light or small cell startup? Thats what >> application I would use it for. I know that it only comes in 2 flavors of >> band but thats where planning and design comes in. >> >> Everything Else deserves scale ability and high capacity for denser and >> larger area of coverage. (450i/M) >> >> Price point is great on the EPMP line also. Lovin the E500/E400 series >> for high capacity indoor solutions. The E500 make a great >> >> outdoor market coverage AP. For example we deploy these at out Farmers >> Market and I only used one AP and a 450 sub to bring the 40Mb connection >> to it. >> >> The vendors use it for their Square and simple wifi offload. We have 2 >> at the Arena at our local Fairgrounds and the vendors for the Rodeo >> absolutely loved it and asked how >> >> they get such great service at their house LOL. The coolest part is that >> the APs are at opposite ends of the arena and use mesh to connect. They are >> positioned so they look under the bleachers >> >> where the vendors are. We kill 2 birds with one stone because folks in >> the bleachers can connect with limited guest access. Which we got about 25 >> new customers off that one event.. >> >> LOVE IT >> >> >> On 5/2/2017 4:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >> >> I second that! with no 450L right now this is a huge problem on >> justifying smaller sites... >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:36 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Matt, we need a 450i Lite AP. >>> >>> On 5/2/2017 10:04 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: >>> >>> Regarding the timing port, it’s just a wiring change to the RJ-45 >>> connector. >>> >>> >>> You can see this explained here: http://community.cambiumnetwor >>> ks.com/t5/PMP-FAQ/Cable-Diagram-for-450i-and-450m-to-UGPS/m- >>> p/52198#U52198 >>> >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 2, 2017 9:45 AM >>> *To:* af <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP discontinued? >>> >>> >>> Yeah, 48v instead of 24v... 450i still uses the normal sync over power >>> (it's the 450m that changed that), but they did replace the old timing port >>> with the rj45 aux port, so I'm not sure what needs to be done to make >>> timing port stuff work. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> the i series has a different power plant and sync mechanism doesnt it? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:01 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I wonder when this will happen. Like to schedule the 450 stinger to be >>> discontinued at the same time. >>> >>> >>> *From:* David Milholen >>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 2, 2017 6:16 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP discontinued? >>> >>> >>> replace your 450s with 450i or m.. 450i Is approx same price point as >>> 450 in AP world >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/1/2017 12:01 PM, George Skorup wrote: >>> >>> FYI, I heard today that the regular 450 APs are no longer available, at >>> least in 5GHz. So be prepared. We lost some 450 and 450i APs over the nice >>> stormy weekend. I hate my life. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> >> > > > >
