Up-down converters tend to suck for many reasons, adding the fact that many modern factors would increase a modern up-down converter's cost over the old units ( need two polarizations, high-end amplifiers due to OFDM PAPR, tight tx/rx cycles etc). In the end a cheap 5ghz radio and an 60ghz UDC would cost more than a midrange 60ghz radio and still lack features.
On May 9, 2017 4:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: Wonder who will be first to make a 5Ghz to 60GHz UDC? Is it even legal? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is the 5ghz backup radio enabled and transmitting all the time or does it > only come on during fade events. I would hate to chew up valuable 5ghz > spectrum to be used only 00.01% of the time. > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> High level, think fiber to the pole and wireless last few hundred meters. >> Basically everything is street level in that case. >> >> You can do fixed wireless off of 60GHz and maybe 5GHz. Wi-Fi then for >> best effort service. >> >> One thing to keep in mind is that in a lot of cities, half the folks >> don't have broadband at home. Wi-Fi service could be the economical >> solution. :-) >> >> 60GHz is for achieving gigabit levels of service. >> >> Hal >> >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:54 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >>> What is this angie thing… can’t wrap my head around it yet >>> >>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < >>> hbledso...@gmail.com> >>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM >>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? >>> Hey Sterling, >>> >>> No worries, we will have 15 CPE per sector support in mid June (software >>> update). The next step will be 32 (another software update). :-) >>> >>> -Hal >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:29 PM Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't have a problem with their range or capacity. >>>> >>>> What I do have an issue with current specs is that it is one AP to 8 >>>> clients. >>>> >>>> I need this to be more in the 'normal' range of an AP to 15-30 clients >>>> or more. >>>> >>>> Given the higher bandwidth, it would be a lot easier to spread a >>>> 1000Mbps connection around to 30-100 clients than the 5GHz 100Mbps to the >>>> same client number. >>>> >>>> Law of averages. >>>> >>>> Again, though, I can see that being a CPU/processor limited thing in >>>> current radio designs for lower frequencies. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince >>>> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 2:21 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? >>>> >>>> The top reasons that come to mind right away are: >>>> >>>> (1) Range. How close can you tolerate? It's not going to go very far in >>>> a PMP environment. Maybe a few hundred yards. If there are trees, forget >>>> about it. >>>> >>>> (2) Modulation. Don't expect something in that frequency to be doing >>>> higher level modulations. Because you can run ginormous channels, maybe not >>>> a big deal, but I wouldn't count on it. >>>> >>>> (3) Costs. Getting things to run at that frequency would probably >>>> require higher end components. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 5/8/2017 1:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >>>> > What am I missing here? >>>> > >>>> > Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the same radio >>>> architecture/software they have developed over a decade, on top of a 60GHz >>>> radio instead of 5Ghz? >>>> > >>>> > Is there some fundamental problem with using the same PHY later >>>> protocols on 60GHz vs 5GHz? >>>> >>>> -- >> >> Harold Bledsoe >> > >