For Microcells Mimosa has done a good form factor. It has to be something
which could attach to the end of a pole. No windload, working
omnidirectional and look pleasing.
As soon as these microcells are between houses they have to look like a nice
lamp and not like a small cellphone tower. We have a lot of discussions and
problems with placement of microcell poles. We have to dig to move them to
places where nobody gets angry.
On Tue, 9 May 2017 11:57:21 +0000
Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]> wrote:
There's a lot more "tools" coming this year that will
continue to make
building gigabit wireless networks with 60GHz easier and
easier. With
today's tools it is already possible to build 500m
radius cells @ 99.99% in
rain zone K - even with a resi-friendly 8in. size. If
you bump that up to
1' size, you can get to 2500' (750m) radius.
Besides the 30º sector we have today, we will continue
to add to this other
coverages and form factors. That, combined with some
other tools like
low-cost TRILL rbridges will make building these
networks much easier.
Some folks are taking a different approach and doing
high density cities:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/blueprint-building-5g-primed-fiber-backhauled-telecom-neal-lachman
There's other deployment models too including pure
wireless ones. There's
building wireless mesh/rings, there's using lower band
licensed PTMP to
feed wireless rings, etc.
Thanks,
-Hal
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 6:09 PM Mathew Howard
<[email protected]> wrote:
I think the 30 degree sector Ignitenet has is something
like 18dbi, vs
25dbi for their bigger directional... I tried to get a
pair of Metrolinqs
to work at just under a mile (which should theoretically
work), but I never
could get them to link. I tested at about half that
distance and it worked
fine... I don't remember what the signal was, but I
thought at the time
that it would probably link with 17dbi less antenna.
Even so, 1000' should
be workable, which still has a lot of potential. I've
been toying with the
idea of putting them on street lights - I'm thinking you
could do something
like one 30 degree sector at the end of each street and
cover a block or
two.
Heck, even if you only figured 500'-1000', you could
build a network
pretty cheaply using street lights.
Of course it is only going to be useful in pretty
specific areas... at the
majority of our towers 60ghz is going to be completely
worthless, but I can
certainly find places where it would work.
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Eric Kuhnke
<[email protected]> wrote:
Even if it existed 2000 ft is wildly optimistic. 60 GHz
works at 600
meters (just about 2000 ft for you Americans) between
two PTP dishes
because you have 44-45dBi gain dishes on both ends.
Would not be the case
with any sort of 60 GHz sector antenna, you'd be looking
at much less gain.
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:
Very location specific. None of our towers would be able
to serve anyone
with that kind of range.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/8/2017 2:15 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Indeed... don't underestimate what can be done with a
2000' range. I can
probably cover a hundred houses with that from the tower
next to where I'm
sitting.
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gino A. Villarini
<[email protected]>
wrote:
I concur
From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Sterling
Jacobson <
[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, May 8, 2017 at 4:31 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone
Have It?
Lots.
Lots of places.
I’ve got, and can get fiber up main roads in
neighborhoods very easily.
What costs me is the last mile backbone that winds
across streets and
through ROW in front of houses etc.
That is the majority of my costs right there.
If I can get in with ‘normal’ wireless pricing per
AP/CPE but at
1000Mbps I can do the hybrid model easily at much less
costs.
It will be amazing for potential customers at the
moment.
Might not hold up over time as bandwidth needs increase,
but provides
an immediate solution at a fraction of the cost of
fiber, with the ‘feel’
of fiber.
*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
<[email protected]>] *On
Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Monday, May 8, 2017 2:29 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone
Have It?
How many places do you want to install a PtMP system
that goes a
maximum of 1000-2000ft distance, that fiber does not
work?
*Gino A. Villarini*
President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
00968
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson
<[email protected]>
wrote:
What am I missing here?
Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the
same radio
architecture/software they have developed over a decade,
on top of a 60GHz
radio instead of 5Ghz?
Is there some fundamental problem with using the same
PHY later
protocols on 60GHz vs 5GHz?
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