We would not be doing DIDs. And we collect and pay the E911 fees as well as 
keep the MSAG database current for the customers.  

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

Faisal is pretty accurate on the costs. The E911 for each individual subscriber 
and getting the address registered properly will be a big part of the MRC for 
each DID, and is something you definitely need to get right so that people 
don't die. 



On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

  @ $7 is a decent price for this type of service, keeping in mind that the 
whole picture could be different once the one time charges and any minimum 
commits are taken into account.

  Figure about $3-$4 per sub as a 'cost' of platform. $1 for DID + Caller ID 
lookup,  and the rest would be used for mou's, I am assuming that taxes & fees 
along with E911 charges would be over and above the $7.

  At the end of the day it is going to be about Volume, i.e. 100 subs vs 1000 
subs, somewhere about $2500-3k/month spending the balance between doing the 
flat rate style arrangement vs taking the risk on mou arbitrage will start to 
change.

  In regards to a 'local' provider, vlan providing quality would not be 
accurate, and quite possibly a myth. It only would address a very small portion 
of the actual path.. The quality greatly depends on the providers setup, i.e.  
how many codec conversions are taking place in the Voice path, and what is the 
network connectivity to the VOIP to TDM gateway or Sonus/ACME Switch path looks 
like.

  Folks commonly mistake in looking at the network path to the Proxy, or the 
call control data path, while the actual quality of the Voice is dependent on 
the network path of the Voice traffic, which is not the same as the call 
control traffic.

  It has taken a long time to learn the intricacies  of VOIP, what affects it 
and how to identify them.

  We will be more than happy to work with you on this project of that makes 
sense.


  Regards

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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    From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:17:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

    We have no idea how many will want this.  Currently we have over 5K on 
pots. 
    We have a provider that is willing to do it in the $7 range.  They are 
already serving some of our other areas.
    I figured if I could VLAN it to a local provider the quality ought to be 
perfect. 

    From: Faisal Imtiaz
    Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:00 AM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

    Fair enough, that explains why you are looking for this..

    Care to share Price Target ? and Qty / Volume commit ?

    Regards.

    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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      From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:47:41 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

      We are starting to offer stand alone broadband under the neca CBOL 
tariff.  Some of those people will still want telephone service.  So we need a 
non regulated VOIP product that will not traverse our regulated equipment.

      From: Faisal Imtiaz
      Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:30 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

      Care to share on-list or off-list as to what is the core reason why you 
are looking for such ?

      i.e.  a regulatory issue ?  A Technical Issue ? or a perceived 
convenience issue ?

      We can easily provide you with such a service, but depending on the core 
issue you are trying to solve it may or may not be a good working arrangement.

      Regards.

      Faisal Imtiaz
      Snappy Internet & Telecom
      7266 SW 48 Street
      Miami, FL 33155
      Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

      Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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        From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
        To: af@afmug.com
        Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:44:36 PM
        Subject: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

        I need a wholesale voip provider to serve my ILEC territory in Utah.  I 
would port my local 801-789 numbers to the VOIP provider.

        We need unlimited LD and solid 911.  Would prefer someone local.

        So, before I give XMission a call I thought I would put this out there.


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