If the VLAN covered from the POTS to the SIP gateway that was connected to the 
tandem, the quality should be pretty high.  Better than using best-effort 
public routing to the gateway.  

But since everything is fiber these days and everything tends to work very 
well, it may not be a difference that would be noticeable.  

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

@ $7 is a decent price for this type of service, keeping in mind that the whole 
picture could be different once the one time charges and any minimum commits 
are taken into account.

Figure about $3-$4 per sub as a 'cost' of platform. $1 for DID + Caller ID 
lookup,  and the rest would be used for mou's, I am assuming that taxes & fees 
along with E911 charges would be over and above the $7.

At the end of the day it is going to be about Volume, i.e. 100 subs vs 1000 
subs, somewhere about $2500-3k/month spending the balance between doing the 
flat rate style arrangement vs taking the risk on mou arbitrage will start to 
change.

In regards to a 'local' provider, vlan providing quality would not be accurate, 
and quite possibly a myth. It only would address a very small portion of the 
actual path.. The quality greatly depends on the providers setup, i.e.  how 
many codec conversions are taking place in the Voice path, and what is the 
network connectivity to the VOIP to TDM gateway or Sonus/ACME Switch path looks 
like.

Folks commonly mistake in looking at the network path to the Proxy, or the call 
control data path, while the actual quality of the Voice is dependent on the 
network path of the Voice traffic, which is not the same as the call control 
traffic.

It has taken a long time to learn the intricacies  of VOIP, what affects it and 
how to identify them.

We will be more than happy to work with you on this project of that makes sense.


Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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  From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:17:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

  We have no idea how many will want this.  Currently we have over 5K on pots. 
  We have a provider that is willing to do it in the $7 range.  They are 
already serving some of our other areas.
  I figured if I could VLAN it to a local provider the quality ought to be 
perfect. 

  From: Faisal Imtiaz
  Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:00 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

  Fair enough, that explains why you are looking for this..

  Care to share Price Target ? and Qty / Volume commit ?

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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    From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:47:41 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

    We are starting to offer stand alone broadband under the neca CBOL tariff.  
Some of those people will still want telephone service.  So we need a non 
regulated VOIP product that will not traverse our regulated equipment.

    From: Faisal Imtiaz
    Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:30 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

    Care to share on-list or off-list as to what is the core reason why you are 
looking for such ?

    i.e.  a regulatory issue ?  A Technical Issue ? or a perceived convenience 
issue ?

    We can easily provide you with such a service, but depending on the core 
issue you are trying to solve it may or may not be a good working arrangement.

    Regards.

    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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      From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:44:36 PM
      Subject: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

      I need a wholesale voip provider to serve my ILEC territory in Utah.  I 
would port my local 801-789 numbers to the VOIP provider.

      We need unlimited LD and solid 911.  Would prefer someone local.

      So, before I give XMission a call I thought I would put this out there.

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