We moved to 450d and never looked back… From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about the same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly larger beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs about the same or a little better or worse? Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody needs some. hit me offlist if you have a need Paul, PDMNet ________________________________ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] on behalf of George Skorup [george.sko...@cbcast.com<mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz anyway. On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: List on the integrated will be $299. List on the one with the dish will be $349. Standard discounts apply. The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519<tel:(312)%20205-2519> Office 574-220-7826<tel:(574)%20220-7826> Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com<mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote: they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the people that paid for the upgrade keys.... it is going to be really interesting to see how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they make it too cheap then why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it needs to be about $300'ish, but that will put it cheaper than the existing un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too much because that's approaching 450i pricing which is much more rugged hardware. Sounds like they may have to lower the price of the existing product line, (un-likely). That would be a problem because there are a lot of WISPS with contract pricing for future SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM is cheaper than what the already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like someone is going to have to make some hard decisions on how they price this stuff. On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com<mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote: Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen. The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and all, which simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly. The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses the 450i SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic like the Force180's and 200's. 450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be called. On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all the existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference between a 450d and 450b? On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <jeffl...@att.net<mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote: Hey Kurt, The first of the 450b units will hit in July. Those are the integrated units that are built like the Force 180. The ones that are similar to the Force 200 are supposed to be available in October. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519<tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office 574-220-7826<tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com<mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the 450 (5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down to 5.1ghz at the $300-$350 price range? I thought it was supposed to happen by end of 1st quarter this year. -- -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com