So even though it has the same gain, and wider beam width, it performs
better?

bp

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
wrote:

> We moved to 450d and never looked back…
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Bill Prince <
> part15...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>
> For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about
> the same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly
> larger beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs
> about the same or a little better or worse?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
>> We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody
>> needs some.
>> hit me offlist if you have a need
>>
>> Paul, PDMNet
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup [
>> george.sko...@cbcast.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>>
>> I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM
>> hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz
>> anyway.
>>
>> On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
>>
>> List on the integrated will be $299.  List on the one with the dish will
>> be $349.  Standard discounts apply.
>>
>> The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish.
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
>> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the
>> people that paid for the upgrade keys.... it is going to be really
>> interesting to see how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they
>> make it too cheap then why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A
>> 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it
>> needs to be about $300'ish, but that will put it cheaper than the existing
>> un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too much because that's approaching 450i
>> pricing which is much more rugged hardware. Sounds like they may have to
>> lower the price of the existing product line, (un-likely). That would be a
>> problem because there are a lot of WISPS with contract pricing for future
>> SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM is cheaper than what the
>> already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like someone is going to
>> have to make some hard decisions on how they price this stuff.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen.
>>>
>>> The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and
>>> all, which simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly.
>>>
>>> The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses the
>>> 450i SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic
>>> like the Force180's and 200's.
>>>
>>> 450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be
>>> called.
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all
>>> the existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference
>>> between a 450d and 450b?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <
>>> jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Kurt,
>>>>
>>>> The first of the 450b units will hit in July.  Those are the integrated
>>>> units that are built like the Force 180.  The ones that are similar to the
>>>> Force 200 are supposed to be available in October.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>>> 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
>>>> 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
>>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the
>>>> 450 (5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down
>>>> to 5.1ghz at the $300-$350 price range? I thought it was supposed to happen
>>>> by end of 1st quarter this year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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