Your recourse would be with the landlord. Unfortunately this puts them in a
bad situation since they violated the terms of your lease with them. I
don't think you have any way to make a claim agianst the other ISP unless
you had some non-compete agreement with them or something.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> is there realistically any recourse?
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> And your question is?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/27/2017 11:05 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>>> I am not asking about any FCC Part X rules, I know this isn't an FCC
>>> issue under any circumstances.
>>>
>>> We have leases with all our POP landlords, in the lease we own the site
>>> spectrum, with the exception of very few locations we don't collocate, just
>>> not worth the hassle.
>>>
>>> I come rolling up on a site today, 100 feet from our POP is a new POP,
>>> not us, cause though I used to enjoy spooning some powder with baking soda,
>>> I don't smoke crack, POP#2 isn't ours, even though its on the same
>>> property, Id recall a full EPMP and backhaul deployment.
>>>
>>> I'm an honest operator, very honest, like the first time UBT sent us new
>>> stickers for spectrum I made sure we actually put them out (be honest,
>>> pretty much NOBODY did that) I turn down power where we don't need it. I do
>>> my best to make sure we are compliant. I fought bosses to remove non
>>> compliant stuff I put up before I knew better. For the most part, I'm a
>>> good fucking neighbor, ask anybody abutting me. (with the exception of one
>>> location I collocate where I'm a dick, but a legal dick)
>>>
>>> So you can understand my dismay, being the pillar of the spectrum
>>> community Ive tried to be (also found out today I inadvertently fucked a
>>> fellow wisp on a bad choice I made with no follow up, I owned it with him
>>> and will be working on fixing that as of tomorrow)
>>>
>>> I approach everything with combat boots, assuming a battle. I'm guessing
>>> when it gets in the database this backhaul is going to be UBNT 11ghz, or
>>> some other nonsense (probably affiliated with the over wind loaded tower
>>> 3/4 miles away with 3, yes 3, UBNT 5ghz peanut shaped airfibers within 8
>>> feet of one another (one link, one side points to the sky the other side
>>> points to the dirt)
>>>
>>> The question I have is about lease rules, and contract law, which the
>>> bulk of you old timers has dealt with. If the other operator (if its who I
>>> suspect it is, they use fuckery, like the UBNT demo mode, or whatever its
>>> called and other such garbage to even operate overpowered in DFS channels)
>>> doesn't want to play ball, as in "shut that shit off" will we be able to
>>> fight it?
>>>
>>> I know what went down, and how it went down, and I suspect I know who it
>>> is. The usual, guy approaches a site owner, offers unrealistic unicorn
>>> farts, unicorn farts always win, spectrum gets fucked.
>>>
>>> We do 5 year auto renewing leases, with 2 year breakouts. (you guys
>>> would likely cream your jeans seeing our lease, and though Ive asked, no I
>>> cant share it publicly, and yes, it was drawn up by an attorney) we get
>>> full control of the 5, 6, 11, 3, 2, 900mhz, etc spectrum (I don't have a
>>> lease handy to see the specific wording) per the site.
>>>
>>> I know we wouldn't have a horse in the race with the FCC, but with this
>>> boiling down to contract law, whats to stop us from A. willful interference
>>> (assuming out power doesn't get cut) and B. a cease and desist from a court
>>> for the other ISP, pending the 2 year termination?
>>>
>>> I'm handing this to the boss to handle, because my communication will
>>> start with "listen here motherfucker" and I don't see that as conducive to
>>> a positive outcome. I had my boy with me when I came to the site today
>>> because I was just getting accurate AGLs for bringing in a licensed
>>> backhaul. If he hadn't been with me, I probably would have yanked their
>>> ghetto enclosure off the wall and shot their antennas.
>>>
>>> Ill tell you what, I'm about to start acting like a lot of these yahoos
>>> and saying fuck the FCC, fuck good stewardship of the spectrum, and fuck
>>> general good manners.
>>>
>>> TBH I'm not sure if I'm asking advice here or just venting. probably
>>> both. but FYI, I'm so pissed off right now, if you have an ex old lady who
>>> needs disappeared, I'm your freaking guy
>>>
>>
>>
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