All jokes aside, you do NOT want to get into a pissing match with
another WISP. No one wins.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)
ubnt in test mode
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
Let's follow the logic...
Property Owner wants more $, as such has chosen to ignore the
'exclusivity' right you may have listed in the contract.
You can exercise your right to complain....
You can exercise your right to take your marbles and go play somewhere
else.
Depending on who is paying more to the property owner, and who has a
better relationship, you or the other guy can complaint on each
other... but at the end of the day.. the property owner is going to
ask you to just get along !
So the short answer is ..... NO, there is realistic recourse to what
you have in mind..
You can always deploy Mimosa gear using 80mhz channels :)
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
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*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:10:52 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)
is there realistically any recourse?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com
<mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:
And your question is?
On 6/27/2017 11:05 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I am not asking about any FCC Part X rules, I know this isn't
an FCC issue under any circumstances.
We have leases with all our POP landlords, in the lease we own
the site spectrum, with the exception of very few locations we
don't collocate, just not worth the hassle.
I come rolling up on a site today, 100 feet from our POP is a
new POP, not us, cause though I used to enjoy spooning some
powder with baking soda, I don't smoke crack, POP#2 isn't
ours, even though its on the same property, Id recall a full
EPMP and backhaul deployment.
I'm an honest operator, very honest, like the first time UBT
sent us new stickers for spectrum I made sure we actually put
them out (be honest, pretty much NOBODY did that) I turn down
power where we don't need it. I do my best to make sure we are
compliant. I fought bosses to remove non compliant stuff I put
up before I knew better. For the most part, I'm a good fucking
neighbor, ask anybody abutting me. (with the exception of one
location I collocate where I'm a dick, but a legal dick)
So you can understand my dismay, being the pillar of the
spectrum community Ive tried to be (also found out today I
inadvertently fucked a fellow wisp on a bad choice I made with
no follow up, I owned it with him and will be working on
fixing that as of tomorrow)
I approach everything with combat boots, assuming a battle.
I'm guessing when it gets in the database this backhaul is
going to be UBNT 11ghz, or some other nonsense (probably
affiliated with the over wind loaded tower 3/4 miles away with
3, yes 3, UBNT 5ghz peanut shaped airfibers within 8 feet of
one another (one link, one side points to the sky the other
side points to the dirt)
The question I have is about lease rules, and contract law,
which the bulk of you old timers has dealt with. If the other
operator (if its who I suspect it is, they use fuckery, like
the UBNT demo mode, or whatever its called and other such
garbage to even operate overpowered in DFS channels) doesn't
want to play ball, as in "shut that shit off" will we be able
to fight it?
I know what went down, and how it went down, and I suspect I
know who it is. The usual, guy approaches a site owner, offers
unrealistic unicorn farts, unicorn farts always win, spectrum
gets fucked.
We do 5 year auto renewing leases, with 2 year breakouts. (you
guys would likely cream your jeans seeing our lease, and
though Ive asked, no I cant share it publicly, and yes, it was
drawn up by an attorney) we get full control of the 5, 6, 11,
3, 2, 900mhz, etc spectrum (I don't have a lease handy to see
the specific wording) per the site.
I know we wouldn't have a horse in the race with the FCC, but
with this boiling down to contract law, whats to stop us from
A. willful interference (assuming out power doesn't get cut)
and B. a cease and desist from a court for the other ISP,
pending the 2 year termination?
I'm handing this to the boss to handle, because my
communication will start with "listen here motherfucker" and I
don't see that as conducive to a positive outcome. I had my
boy with me when I came to the site today because I was just
getting accurate AGLs for bringing in a licensed backhaul. If
he hadn't been with me, I probably would have yanked their
ghetto enclosure off the wall and shot their antennas.
Ill tell you what, I'm about to start acting like a lot of
these yahoos and saying fuck the FCC, fuck good stewardship of
the spectrum, and fuck general good manners.
TBH I'm not sure if I'm asking advice here or just venting.
probably both. but FYI, I'm so pissed off right now, if you
have an ex old lady who needs disappeared, I'm your freaking guy
