Steam line, air line, rotating shaft.
Chain or belt and pulley system.
Natural gas pipeline and thermoelectric generator
Fire hose spraying against a water wheel.
Ditch and water wheel
High intensity laser.  
1 kW magnetron into a high gain antenna with a similar antenna at the other end.


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel capacity

Run a water line an install a micro turbine..

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:39 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel capacity

This sounds like he just doesn't want anything in the ground.   But,  Does no 
wires extend to extension cords?  

I've at least once stuck a nonpen on the ground and ran an extension cord to 
it.  or for longer distances so cord. 

On Jul 10, 2017 1:21 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

  Land owner said no.  I could easily trench and conduit but when the land 
owner says "no wires" they mean absolutely no wires =(


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

    Josh, I get electric turned up around here for about $1000, then 
$15-20/mth.  No offense, but I'd probably look at just getting a new service 
put in.

    Regards,
    Chuck

    On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

      Tycon has an all inclusive kit that Streakwave is suggesting - it's about 
$900 before shipping.  This is an 80w panel, battery, charge controller, 
enclosure, etc.  Battery capacity is 1248 watt hours.

      Is it worth spending the time shopping for parts individually?



      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373


      On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        200+ watts.  So one panel.
        And at least 5 days of battery autonomy.  That is minimal.
        10x24x5=1200 watt hours.  100 amp hours for 12 volts, 50 amp hours for 
24 volts.  

        From: Josh Luthman 
        Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:40 PM
        To: af@afmug.com 
        Subject: [AFMUG] Solar panel capacity

        Never thought I'd see the day where I had to deal with this, but I have 
a site where they're taking down the house/power and living in a trailer.  
Trailer has to have Internet but can't provide the power (sigh). 

        The objective now is to have a Force200+Nano5 on a pole out in the yard 
for service.  Figure this is about 10 watt load.  How much panel/battery do I 
need?  This is not mission critical and only needs to run for months, so we 
don't have to deal with winter nights.

        Is there a place we can get panels ordered/shipped in the next day or 
two?


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373



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