ZTE has xg-pon available,

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com<mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:12 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

I will say, I really like the UBNT ONT, and I've been thinking of offering it 
as a premium option because of the display.  Having the ability to show usage 
easily is very nice.  I just feel UBNT missed the price mark here, and missed 
the opportunity to do something big like ngpon2 with 40gb/s capacity 
capabilities.  That would have rocked the manufacturers.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:37 PM Brett A Mansfield 
<li...@silverlakeinternet.com<mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com>> wrote:
It's funny to me that I was just on FS.com<http://FS.com> the other day and I 
saw they sell attenuators and I thought to myself, why on earth would you want 
to attenuate the signal? Now I know.


Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

To clarify, there is no real intelligent attenuation on any optical product I 
have ever seen. Some can do a 2-3db depending on the product, but it's never 
really a truly intelligent system with bidirectional communication between the 
optics to negotiate power levels.

I may be wrong but this is just my experience.

On Aug 2, 2017 12:26 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
How could they? TX and RX are different optic sources. You might have a TX 
power level much higher on one end than the other due to manufacturing 
differences or different equipment.

On Aug 2, 2017 12:10 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
Hmmm, that's not good if it can't auto-attenuate down.

Sounds like they need to fix that.

Most of my SMF lasers and links are short and 'hot', but doesn't seem to bother 
anything I'm currently using.



-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

I need to print a retraction here. I have been talking to Martin at UBNT and he 
shows me the error of my ways. I do not have a 50% failure rate. In fact, it's 
a 0% failure rate. My signal was just too hot. I'm new to the SM Fiber game, so 
I'm learning as I go. I didn't realize the signal could be too hot at only -3 
dB. All of my multi mode Fiber sits at -2 dB and works really well.

You learn something new every day.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
> <li...@silverlakeinternet.com<mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com>> wrote:
>
> I have heard a lot of complaints from DirectCom customers about their Fiber 
> never being close to what they pay for, but that may be more related to the 
> way it's throttled then the GPON.
>
> I've been playing with several of these ONT/OLT over the past week. I really 
> like them. Though I have a 50% failure rate on the nanoG's. The fiber port 
> breaks very easily.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:31 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
>> <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>
>> We have good luck with 32 customers per 2.4 Gbps down on GPON.  Lotsa 
>> overhead.  No problems, not even close, so far.  And we are selling more Gig 
>> circuits than ever before.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson
>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:19 PM
>> To: 'af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>'
>> Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>>
>> Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U unit?
>>
>> I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet for 
>> the OLT 1U unit.
>>
>> Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in the rack 
>> already.
>>
>> If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from active I would need some sort of 
>> transition panel/setup right?
>>
>> Right now my density is 48 ports per 1U 1 to 1 single family home 
>> connections.
>>
>> The UBNT Fiber OLT has 8 ports handling up to 128 clients each, with 20Gbps 
>> uplink capability (not quite sure on those split details yet).
>>
>> I currently only take a max of 576 per cabinet on active, so I could easily 
>> use just one of these UBNT fiber OLT units.
>> If I don't care about the share ratio I guess, I would just get another 576 
>> panel count that spliced 72 count to each port and I'm done.
>>
>> I'm unclear what that panel/splice would look like though since I've never 
>> actually done GPON.
>>
>> And I would probably want to not load up that many per port, and instead 
>> maybe get four of the UBNT Fiber OLT units.
>> That would take up 4U of rack space, the fanout would probably still take up 
>> 4U of rack space, for a total of 8 U.
>> And I would have instead an 18 customer to 1 port on the GPON instead of 72 
>> which I like better for future use.
>>
>> Do these UFiber OLT 1U rackmount units share just 1Gbps per each of the 8 
>> ports? That would only be 8Gbps needed total.
>> So I assume the GPON spec they are using can transmit more than that per 
>> each of the 8 GPON ports, right?
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Regards,
Chuck

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