All those areas have ILECS. Most, if not all receive USF. Even if they are copper, they can shorten the loops to VDSL or ADSL2+ lengths without extreme amounts of money. It can be done. The FCC needs to keep the broadband speed up high to force this, even though it sets a higher bar for WISPS to receive support. But are ANY WISPS receiving USF support yet?
From: Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband This is an old map but you get the idea. There are a lot of places on the east coast that have unserved areas that WISP’s don’t cover. Upstate NY is a good example. Trees, terrain, lack of towers combined with low household density make it an almost impossible task to make a business case to build to those unserved areas, even as a WISP. The sad thing is that even if the government paid someone the whole cost to build out the network to these rural places, the only people that could still justify being able to serve these customers are a larger operator who can cost average those low density areas over their profitable markets. I looked and looked at a lot of regions of the state and the numbers were ugly. Rural parts of MA, CT and the other New England states are much the same situation. The mid Atlantic states that have those towering pine trees and relatively flat terrain are real ugly to design wireless networks for, 80 to 100 foot pine trees densely planted? No thanks. It was hard enough to design cellular coverage along the cleared highway paths through those trees. The map is deceiving too, while it looks like a lot of unserved white areas, one has to look at where the population actually lives to has a more accurate view of the problem. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband Brian Webster would be the guy to tell us, but I'm sure he's tied up with WECAT stuff. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:54:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband How many areas are wisps NOT in. On Sep 28, 2017 7:39 AM, "Dave" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: +1 I could see that for sure. But we could get into the area they are not and would not go much faster. On 09/28/2017 07:35 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: It would mean cell cos get more federal funding. A lot more. On Sep 28, 2017 12:37 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't really see how redefining "broadband" to 10/1 is a bad thing... shouldn't that mean that other companies wouldn't (in theory, anyway) be able to get funding to overbuild areas where we are already providing 10mbps, which they currently could, unless we have at least 25mbps? On Sep 28, 2017 12:30 AM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: Off the topic, but we have a customer who keeps trying to get our cs to ise the term broadband. Hes limited to 6x2 and thinks (semi correctly) he can fule an fcc complaint if they use that word. Hes also accused us of violating federal monopoly laws because we have an exclusive contract on the grain elevator in his town. If i could release emails, voicemails, and call recordings from this guy over thelast ten years, i would win the internet and nobody in this industry would ever hate a customer less. On Sep 27, 2017 10:05 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: As a note to this... "As always, you're not going to be blown away by the performance. You're paying $60 per month for 10Mbps downloads and 1Mbps uploads, which doesn't meet the FCC's definition of broadband." https://twitter.com/JRosenworcel/status/910514607743217665 "#FCC proposing to lower US #broadband standard from 25 to 10 Mbps. This is crazy. Lowering standards doesn't solve our broadband problems." Why would they do such a thing? Oh, so they can get more of our tax dollars to roll out competition in your area. Funded by you. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Theyre replacing a tower here five feet from the current tower. I assume my > bosses taxes are helping to fund this.... assholes > > On Sep 27, 2017 6:50 PM, "Tushar Patel" <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote: > > https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/27/att-rural-wireless-internet-expands-to-9-more-states/ > > > > > > --
