Equalization charge is enough voltage to generate bubbles... In solar land, equalization is typically done once per month.

On 10/16/17 6:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK, so why is that not a problem for large telco flooded cells?  We never had any bubbles.
Do an equalization charge maybe once a year.

-----Original Message----- From: Robert
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

Statification of the acid...   Eventually the denser fluid will pool at
the bottom if not agitated.   Bubble generation is necessary for
agitation...

On 10/16/17 6:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I wonder why you need to exercise them when you don’t on the large stationary batts that are made for float duty.  I know Ni-Cds generate a memory and need to be exercised, but have not heard of this on lead acid before. If this is a thing, the valre-eltek rectifier with the BC-2000 card can be set to automatically do a scheduled load test pretty much of any schedule you can think of.
*From:* Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Monday, October 16, 2017 10:04 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices
A hybrid deep cycle marine battery is good for around 80-100 cycles. For backup purposes it can work but keep in mind that you still need to exercise the battery at least 1-2 times per month.  Perma-float will kill it if doesn't cycle occasionally.  Still as a backup-only you can get 5 years from it.  10-15 years is OK from a real deep cycle battery. If you want a lot of backup capacity, look at a forklift battery.  If you can handle the logistics (weight) it is really good cost overall and good for 15-20 years.  They just weigh a ton (literally).
-Hal
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:46 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

    compare Wh / pound if you want to catch the liars.

    If I look at a bunch of 100ah batteries, and one of them is 10 pounds
    less than the others, then i believe that one is optimistically
    interpreting a test result.


    ------ Original Message ------
    From: ch...@wbmfg.com
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: 10/14/2017 4:57:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices

     >Lead, acid.
     >Not in a moving vehicle, in an temperature controlled space.
     >Not cycled.
     >Float operation.
     >
     >I think that even if they were cheap crap, they might do OK.
     >
     >
     >-----Original Message----- From: Robert
     >Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:31 PM
     >To: af@afmug.com
     >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices
     >
     >So is there something about these batteries that gives you a good
     >feeling as to actual quality beyond the marketing blurb with the
     >product?   I only have the pure weight to be an independent judge
    right
     >now.
     >
     >On 10/14/17 1:14 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
     >>Sho-nuff
     >>
     >>
     >>bp
     >><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
     >>
     >>On 10/14/2017 1:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
     >>>Yeahbut, I had to do some manual screen scraping and data entry.�
     >>>So I was a bit lazy.� And since I really don�t care about
     >>>physical specs (being a cheap ass) that is all I did.� So, yeah, I
     >>>can.� Do you want the spread sheet?� Winking smile
     >>>�
     >>>*From:* Bill Prince
     >>>*Sent:* Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:12 PM
     >>>*To:* af@afmug.com
     >>>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Batt Prices
     >>>�
     >>>
     >>>Can you add column(s) for group size and weight?
     >>>
     >>>�
     >>>
     >>>bp
     >>><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
     >>>
     >>>On 10/14/2017 12:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
     >>>>My list so far.� Price per watt hour is based on the 100 hour
     >>>>discharge rate.�
     >>>
     >>


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