The Lumina can only do 56mhz... if that's what you're using, it's all
you'll get out of it. I think you'd have to go to the Integra to get the
full 80mhz with SAF.

There are some pretty cheap radios out there now though that can use a full
80mhz. If I remember right, Alcoma and Cablefree both will sell links for
somewhere around $4k that will do about 650Mbps on an 80mhz channel... but
I have no experience with either one, other than that I got pricing from
them both at one point. I think there are some others out there for similar
prices as well.

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> When I say 270Mb, it means the modulation is on the edge with 3ft dishes
> which was a conscious design suggestion / decision 4 years ago because of
> the extra tower cost and wind load.
>
>
>
> I thought the Luminas (at least the ones I have) can only do 56Mhz or
> something, as opposed to the new ones that can do the full 80 mhz?   If I
> had a Lumina where I can jump up the channel size, that would be ideal,
> another 30% throughput.  Couple that with another link on the same antenna
> would be hippie skippy 😊
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Friday, October 27, 2017 11:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Considerations for upgrading passed SAF Lumina link
>
>
>
> I have exactly 1 SAF Lumina link, 6GHz at 30 miles, that does ~360Mbps
> (56MHz/256QAM weak-FEC ACM). I have fiber on both sides of this link, so
> the full-duplex is needed. And even if it wasn't, I'd still want it for the
> sub-millisecond latency, and rain fades on other paths causing traffic
> reversal. We'll probably end up upgrading that to an IP20/PTP820 within the
> next year or so.
>
> So when you say 270Mbps... is that a 40 or 80MHz (56 usable) channel? But
> I thought 40MHz would yield ~250Mbps on a Lumina? Anyway... if it's 40, can
> you re-coordinate for 80? I'd also agree with what others have said, get
> another set and do 2+0 since you want to keep the same antennas. I'm sure
> you can still find an OMC or whatever SAF calls it.
>
> On 10/27/2017 6:51 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
> We have a 4 year old Lumina link from our core, 12.9 miles, 11Ghz with 3ft
> dishes on each end, �that doesn�t have enough BW for us long term, as
> we are going to do another hop from there (7.3 miles), then FTTH.�
>
> �
>
> I get around 270Mbit from it, and we already use 120Mit pretty
> consistently and if another tower OSPFs to it, more than that.� Sooo, I
> am looking for alternatives.�� Its mainly one-way traffic of course, so
> a solution that favored that would be acceptable.
>
> �
>
> Cost is a factor of course, as I also have a �parallel path� a few
> miles south to do the same on very soon.� Something that could use the
> same dishes from the SAF would be good also.
>
> �
>
> I have some undeployed Mimosa B11�s that we bought for a project and are
> still waiting on some tower rights to get settled. I could use those, or
> maybe AF-11X or multiples thereof.� I might as well plan for the future
> since this is a �main artery� link.� We have sufficient 11 Ghz
> channels available to license.
>
> �
>
> Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated !
>
> �
>
> Paul
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