Funny that you mention that... Valve announced today that they are no
longer taking BTC. I think most vendors are instantly converting to USD
instead of holding in BTC, at least that is what I would do if I was
selling a product while accepting it.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/6/16742622/steam-ends-support-bitcoin-volatility


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> im down with that, so long as nobody uses the term extortion and keeps the
> payments up
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> It might be better long term for people to pay you to stay out of
>> investments.
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:18:27 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+
>>
>> how would you even price items with a currency that fluctuates at this
>> speed? You couldnt, youd have to price it on a reference, like the USD,
>> which would be kind of a problem if your reference is what youre trying to
>> get rid of, because youre awesome cryptocurrency is way betters.
>>
>> You folks into it should watch out, because im looking to get in on the
>> ride, the last time i did that was Keyon, so Im like herpes to investment
>> value
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:11 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A professor I know calculated that if Bitcoin only got something like 5%
>>> of the world’s share of currency then it has a theoretical value of $100K
>>> or some thing like that.  I don’t recall the exact numbers.  Maybe it was
>>> just 1%.
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 6:04 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+
>>>
>>> I am curious, its over 14k right now. whats causing such a substantial
>>> gain? Given that its "digital infallible"  Im wondering if its not an
>>> artificial inflation
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm glad I'm only out electricity costs, I cash out when I hit the
>>>> minimum don't keep anything on site. With a single card it's been taking
>>>> maybe 3 or 4 weeks to hit payout though, and I turn it off when I'm using
>>>> my PC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nicehash.com/ for the TLDR- "we apologize for your rectum
>>>>> stretching, we recommend preparation H and have a nice day... seeya 
>>>>> wouldnt
>>>>> wanna be ya"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> lulz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For Steve. J
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZ8zDpX2Mg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Wright
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Louis
>>>>>>> Arsenault
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:48 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can wipe that and make $10... LOL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Robert Andrews <
>>>>>>> i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To a "Batman" usb drive....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/06/2017 01:27 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> don't leave your coin on coinbase move it to a more safe wallet or
>>>>>>> completely off line if you're paranoid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I'm waiting for the Coinbase hack...that will really hit hard
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>     they are handling more transactions than Mastercard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Regards,
>>>>>>>     Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones
>>>>>>>     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         how many people who believe this as a "currency" are missing
>>>>>>>         FDIC insurance today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Chuck Hogg <
>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>         <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Yea, we're affected by NiceHash as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Regards,
>>>>>>>             Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Joe Novak
>>>>>>>             <jno...@lrcomm.com <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Speaking of hacks... I've been selling hashing power
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>                 Nicehash, woke up this morning and my miner isn't
>>>>>>>                 running... hmm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Nicehash's wallet all got emptied to a unknown
>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>                 (at least unknown to us, the users). 60 million
>>>>>>> worth of
>>>>>>>                 BTC. I was about half way to my pay out (minimum 0.01
>>>>>>>                 BTC per payout). No official word yet, tread
>>>>>>> carefully...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Travis Johnson
>>>>>>>                 <t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     I sold 110 coins about 3 years ago and took a
>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>                     loss. I got back in at $6,400/btc and sold at
>>>>>>>                     $9,800. Then I got back in at $10,500 and just
>>>>>>> sold
>>>>>>>                     this morning at $12,700.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     It scares the hell out of me to have money
>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>                     there, especially when it could crash while I'm
>>>>>>>                     asleep at night... but it's also so addictive to
>>>>>>>                     make huge returns (16% after fees, etc. just this
>>>>>>>                     month).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     It's a huge bubble. There is nothing to support
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>                     When you buy in, you are counting on someone
>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>                     to pay you more than you paid for it, but for no
>>>>>>>                     good reason. It's the .COM era again, except
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>                     the .COM. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Travis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On 12/6/2017 2:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Still crying over the 85 I sold at $1k
>>>>>>> each�
>>>>>>>                         you still have?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On 12/5/17, 10:37 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis
>>>>>>>                         Johnson"
>>>>>>>                         <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>>>                         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of
>>>>>>>                         t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             How high can it go?? When do you sell??
>>>>>>>                             What's a "fair" return??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             Travis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Louis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NTInet
>>>>>>> O: 803-533-1660 X 207 <(803)%20533-1660>
>>>>>>> C: 803-997-0004 <(803)%20997-0004>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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