NO firmware updates, unless you have a support contract..
they did this back in 2014 !

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:34:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware

> I like Dells, but I have HP's because of the excess/price on eBay.
> 
> You are saying HP doesn't support like Dell?
> 
> I can believe that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:14 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
> 
> In my opinion, check out the firmware / support polices for HP  vs Dell, 
> before
> you make a decision on what hardware to purchase.
> 
> :)
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
> 
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:08:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
> 
>> I just pickup off lease HP's on Ebay, lots of ram processors and
>> disk... usually don't pay more than $500-800 for them.  Gen 7 and 8's.
>> Lots of reputable sellers.
>> 
>> Also, Checkout PROXMOX. It's a pretty cool virtualization platform
>> with a community edition that you hack around to get the latest
>> version. I find it very easy... you can take VMDK files and convert
>> them and spin up a new instance of anything easily.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
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>>On 2018-02-06, 1:02 PM, "Af on behalf of Nate Burke"
>><af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    I'm going to need to bring online a couple new servers (OS Instances) in
>>    the next month or 2.  They could probably be housed inside a single
>>    physical machine as VM's.  It's been a while since I've had to pickup
>>    new server hardware.  What's a good spec now for a machine to do VM's.
>>    Are NAS prices cheap enough now that you'd go with external storage, or
>>    just have a single physical machine with internal HDD's.  Hardware NAS,
>>    or another machine running linux and ZFS?  With external Storage, does
>>    it all have to be 10G networking to prevent bottlenecks?  About 6 years
>>    ago I put in a single standalone server running VMWare, but it's out of
>>    resources to add new VM's to it.
>>    
>>    It looks like Newegg has lots of Refurb Dell and HP servers (with no
>>    HDD's) for cheap.  DL380G5 ~$100.  I'd like to stay in the $2k-$3k range
>>    for this project.  Or is hosting your own hardware not even worth it
>>    anymore?  Just go get a server from 1and1 for $5/mo setup a VPN back to
> >     the network and be done?

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