I think he is talking like raid card and other controller hardware on the board 
that is HP brand.

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On 2018-02-06, 3:53 PM, "Af on behalf of Nate Burke" <af-boun...@afmug.com on 
behalf of n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

    'Firmware Updates'  Are you talking about BIOS updates?  Wouldn't all 
    other updates be in the OS, that is vendor agnostic?  Or am I missing 
    something.  Are BIOS updates a big thing in the server world?  I can't 
    remember the last time I actually did a BIOS update.
    
    On 2/6/2018 2:51 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
    > I didn't know that.
    >
    > Most of my servers are not public facing, mainly for "in house" use.  
There must be a way to get the firmware if you need it?... there always is.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >   
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    > On 2018-02-06, 3:42 PM, "Af on behalf of Faisal Imtiaz" 
<af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
    >
    >      
    >      NO firmware updates, unless you have a support contract..
    >      they did this back in 2014 !
    >      
    >      Regards
    >      
    >      Faisal Imtiaz
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    >      ----- Original Message -----
    >      > From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
    >      > To: af@afmug.com
    >      > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:34:14 PM
    >      > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
    >      
    >      > I like Dells, but I have HP's because of the excess/price on eBay.
    >      >
    >      > You are saying HP doesn't support like Dell?
    >      >
    >      > I can believe that.
    >      >
    >      > -----Original Message-----
    >      > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
    >      > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:14 PM
    >      > To: af@afmug.com
    >      > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
    >      >
    >      > In my opinion, check out the firmware / support polices for HP  vs 
Dell, before
    >      > you make a decision on what hardware to purchase.
    >      >
    >      > :)
    >      >
    >      > Regards.
    >      >
    >      > Faisal Imtiaz
    >      > Snappy Internet & Telecom
    >      > http://www.snappytelecom.net
    >      >
    >      > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
    >      >
    >      > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net
    >      >
    >      > ----- Original Message -----
    >      >> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
    >      >> To: af@afmug.com
    >      >> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:08:33 PM
    >      >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
    >      >
    >      >> I just pickup off lease HP's on Ebay, lots of ram processors and
    >      >> disk... usually don't pay more than $500-800 for them.  Gen 7 and 
8's.
    >      >> Lots of reputable sellers.
    >      >>
    >      >> Also, Checkout PROXMOX. It's a pretty cool virtualization platform
    >      >> with a community edition that you hack around to get the latest
    >      >> version. I find it very easy... you can take VMDK files and 
convert
    >      >> them and spin up a new instance of anything easily.
    >      >>
    >      >> Cheers,
    >      >>
    >      >> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
    >      >> Silo Wireless Inc.
    >      >> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
    >      >> http://www.silowireless.com <http://www.silowireless.com/> 
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    >      >> Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
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    >      >>On 2018-02-06, 1:02 PM, "Af on behalf of Nate Burke"
    >      >><af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
    >      >>
    >      >>    I'm going to need to bring online a couple new servers (OS 
Instances) in
    >      >>    the next month or 2.  They could probably be housed inside a 
single
    >      >>    physical machine as VM's.  It's been a while since I've had to 
pickup
    >      >>    new server hardware.  What's a good spec now for a machine to 
do VM's.
    >      >>    Are NAS prices cheap enough now that you'd go with external 
storage, or
    >      >>    just have a single physical machine with internal HDD's.  
Hardware NAS,
    >      >>    or another machine running linux and ZFS?  With external 
Storage, does
    >      >>    it all have to be 10G networking to prevent bottlenecks?  
About 6 years
    >      >>    ago I put in a single standalone server running VMWare, but 
it's out of
    >      >>    resources to add new VM's to it.
    >      >>
    >      >>    It looks like Newegg has lots of Refurb Dell and HP servers 
(with no
    >      >>    HDD's) for cheap.  DL380G5 ~$100.  I'd like to stay in the 
$2k-$3k range
    >      >>    for this project.  Or is hosting your own hardware not even 
worth it
    >      >>    anymore?  Just go get a server from 1and1 for $5/mo setup a 
VPN back to
    >      > >     the network and be done?
    >      
    >
    
    

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